Russian Freedom of Speech?

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Russian Freedom of Speech?

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People disappearing, living in work camps with abusive conditions, not being able to protest, personal freedoms being taken...

Progressive, Russia is not. I guess I expected more from a country that decided communism was a failing enterprise.

Russia?! No freedom?! 🤨

Re: Russian Freedom of Speech?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Pussy Riots singer found

People disappearing, living in work camps with abusive conditions, not being able to protest, personal freedoms being taken...

Progressive, Russia is not. I guess I expected more from a country that decided communism was a failing enterprise.

sounds like Russia decided to all of a sudden implement OUR wonderul freedoms of speech and great liberties we have here in the good old police states of the USA. 😆 "sarcasm"

and just when i thought russia was becoming more and more a free country like we were suppose to according to the consitution "which our freedoms got taken away from us on dec 25th 1913 when the majority of the members of congress were out on vacation spending time on the holidays with their familys when the bankers had their way and had the federal reserve act was passed giving us the evil monster the federal reserve-thats when WE became slaves of a socialist country. and a dictatership was installed in our country.

I would say Russia has decided to follow our wonderful alleged freedoms we have here in the states. 😆

were such a free country here in the states policiticans commit crimes everyday that we go to jail for,police are tazering people for the littliest and tiniest things,our dictater Obomination praised the chicago police force this past summer for their nazi gestapo tactics of beating up protesters protesting NATO's illegal occupation in the mid east,we have the military go door to doors in the neighboorhoods for just ONE man they are hunting for disregarding the fact thats why you have a police force to do that work,yep i would say russia has deciced to follow our great and wonderful so called freedoms we have here in good old nazi USA. 😆 😄 😂

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Originally posted by Mr Parker
sounds like Russia decided to all of a sudden implement OUR wonderul freedoms of speech and great liberties we have here in the good old police states of the USA. 😆 "sarcasm"

and just when i thought russia was becoming more and more a free country like we were suppose to according to the consitution "which our freedoms got taken away from us on dec 25th 1913 when the majority of the members of congress were out on vacation spending time on the holidays with their familys when the bankers had their way and had the federal reserve act was passed giving us the evil monster the federal reserve-thats when WE became slaves of a socialist country. and a dictatership was installed in our country.

I would say Russia has decided to follow our wonderful alleged freedoms we have here in the states. 😆

were such a free country here in the states policiticans commit crimes everyday that we go to jail for,police are tazering people for the littliest and tiniest things,our dictater Obomination praised the chicago police force this past summer for their nazi gestapo tactics of beating up protesters protesting NATO's illegal occupation in the mid east,we have the military go door to doors in the neighboorhoods for just ONE man they are hunting for disregarding the fact thats why you have a police force to do that work,yep i would say russia has deciced to follow our great and wonderful so called freedoms we have here in good old nazi USA. 😆 😄 😂

Re: Russian Freedom of Speech?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Pussy Riots singer found

People disappearing, living in work camps with abusive conditions, not being able to protest, personal freedoms being taken...

Progressive, Russia is not. I guess I expected more from a country that decided communism was a failing enterprise.

Your expectations were incredibly naive.

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose

great rebutalls to the facts,what a great debater.so typical,when cornered and cant face facts,evade and post childish gifs. 💃

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose

I watch that show all the time, and this guy cracks me up. See what freedom of speech gets you.

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Originally posted by Mr Parker
great rebutalls to the facts,what a great debater.so typical,when cornered and cant face facts,evade and post childish gifs. 💃

1. It's a JPEG.

2. Your post was barely coherent and I saw no proof of any kind, so it just came out looking like someone had eaten a conspiracy theory thread and puked up the remains.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Your expectations were incredibly naive.

It's naive to expect progress? I realize Russia has never had a great track record in this regard, but my intention was to bring up just how bad things are under Putin, and that they will probably get worse. I posted another thread where Russian schools and officials were banning Halloween for being "unChristian".

I don't know why, but I've never been under the impression that Russia was ever on the up-and-up in regards to rights and freedoms. A little boost from the USSR's collapse, sure, but never anything coming close to what we all get a boner for taking as a given.

Putin's Russia just seems like Russia being Russia again. Welcome back, comrade!

It seems like a lot of regression. And considering the Cold War that some of us here actually lived during, that's not a good thing.

That's what I'd be worried about. Not so much that freedom is being taken away from the people, but that the Russian government is the kind that thinks nothing of doing so in this day and age. Give them a little time and they could develop in to the... problem kind of state. Georgia could have been just the beginning.

Georgia is very similar in terms of religious fundamentalism right now. It wouldn't surprise me if Russia started influencing and acquiring local failed ex-Soviet states again.

I'm going to miss Kazakhstan.

I'd be hard-pressed to name most of them on a map, unless that map was you know, labeled.

Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakh, Poland, East Germany, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia... does the Georgia region have more countries? Some of the Balkan places...

That's all I got.

There's like a Kirghyzstan or something, and some other -stans near the Caspian we're forgetting.

Stan? Stan?! Shtaaann!!

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
It's naive to expect progress? I realize Russia has never had a great track record in this regard, but my intention was to bring up just how bad things are under Putin, and that they will probably get worse. I posted another thread where Russian schools and officials were banning Halloween for being "unChristian".

Where Russia is concerned? Yep, pretty much.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakh, Poland, East Germany, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia... does the Georgia region have more countries? Some of the Balkan places...

That's all I got.


Armenia and Azerbaijan. Armenia already has Russian troops stationed inside for defense against the Turkish and Azerbaijanis, while Azerbaijan is in geopolitical terms a Turkish satellite.

Russia is already planning a currency union with Kazakhstan and Belarus, and Putin is doing his best to strongarm Ukraine into joining (or failing that, to make sure they never join the EU), but realistically Russia will never regain all of its former satellites, unless something drastic happens--and by drastic I mean aliens suddenly erase both China and America from existence.

Poland is a major part of NATO and the EU, Ukraine and Georgia are both NATO and EU candidates, and the central European countries have lots of Russophobia, though I think it's more dramatic in the older generations.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Armenia and Azerbaijan. Armenia already has Russian troops stationed inside for defense against the Turkish and Azerbaijanis, while Azerbaijan is in geopolitical terms a Turkish satellite.

Russia is already planning a currency union with Kazakhstan and Belarus, and Putin is doing his best to strongarm Ukraine into joining (or failing that, to make sure they never join the EU), but realistically Russia will never regain all of its former satellites, unless something drastic happens--and by drastic I mean aliens suddenly erase both China and America from existence.

Poland is a major part of NATO and the EU, Ukraine and Georgia are both NATO and EU candidates, and the central European countries have lots of Russophobia, though I think it's more dramatic in the older generations.

In his book The Next 100 Years, George Friedman predicts that Poland will be the big player in Europe, along with Turkey. Britain and France never regain their old glory, Germany is too kowtowed from its history, and Russia tries, but fails to reinsert itself as a superpower (low birthrates and too many international competitors). China faces the long term repercussions from its one-child policy, and economic bubble-boom, and the West, desperate for immigrants from its own low rates, brain drains China and India of their skilled labor. Mexico and Brazil shine bright, and the U.S. enters it's "actual" golden age.

Canada stays frosty.