Originally posted by ScreamPaste
My guess is because Mjolnir^2.But yeah, not sure about Orion, I don't know enough about that feat.
I'm fairly certain the other feats are all replicated, though. mmm
Even if he absorbed half the bomb with one hammer, it would still be way better imo and I'm not sure how it still worked by Mjolnir is hax.
Thor containing that shit in his body and taking control over it doesn't get mentioned enough. That shit had Odin dying. And Gorr wasn't targeting Gods, but Hell Lords, and even Elder Gods. That shit is ridiculous. 😐
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThe Oblivion Bomb's reversal by Orion's Astroforce was, to put it lightly, rather anti-climactic. I'm a fan of Byrne, but that scene was just terribly done.
While that bomb was impressive, it was magnitudes below the God Bomb which was simultaneously killing every single deity type that ever lived or would live across all of time. Also, didn't the Oblivion Bomb work through reversing the expansion of space or whatever? IIRC, Orion stopped the explosion while it was only a small sphere radiating from the device. It's been a while though, so if I'm underselling the feat, ignore me.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusRes ipsa loquitur.
Even if he absorbed half the bomb with one hammer, it would still be way better imo and I'm not sure how it still worked by Mjolnir is hax.Thor containing that shit in his body and taking control over it doesn't get mentioned enough. That shit had Odin dying. And Gorr wasn't targeting Gods, but Hell Lords, and even Elder Gods. That shit is ridiculous. 😐
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why doesn't Thor have Mjoinir is LoB actually Bruce?
SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH, JERKY! 😠
Classic Hal Jordan have the will to claim Beyonder's power SECRET WARS
Outcome
Darkseid Takes on Odin with Guginir in BLOOD AND THUNDER
Outcome
Superboy Prime takes on Arishem Simonson's THOR
Outcome
Thor fights Superman in SACRIFICE
Outcome
Classic Hal Jordan have the will to claim Beyonder's power SECRET WARS
Outcome - If there's anything Johns has taught us, it's how powerful Hal's will is.
Darkseid Takes on Odin with Guginir in BLOOD AND THUNDER
Outcome - Darkseid cries for Superman.
Superboy Prime takes on Arishem Simonson's THOR
Outcome - Thor never took on Arishem in Simonson's Thor. But whatever, Arishem ends Superboy Prime.
Thor fights Superman in SACRIFICE
Outcome - In that unstable state, the Odinson ends him.
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Take a memorable moment in the medium and switch the feat to another character and predict the outcome.
[B]DCNU Superman has to hold up the mountain range in SECRET WARS.
Outcome- Will likely struggle at first but it's within his capabilities.
Classic Orion has to diffuse the GODBOMB
Outcome- Not unless Orion has two Mjolnirs stashed in his back pocket.
Hulk takes on Doomsday in Metropolis DEATH OF SUPERMAN
Outcome- If everything rested on Hulk he would've won and wouldn't have "died" either.
Thor has to destroy an Imperiex probe with his bare hands
Outcome- Probably not without Mjolnir.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Also, didn't the Oblivion Bomb work through reversing the expansion of space or whatever? IIRC, Orion stopped the explosion while it was only a small sphere radiating from the device. It's been a while though, so if I'm underselling the feat, ignore me.
But, according to Metron in the scans I provided, the Astro-Force was the only thing in the universe capable of stopping the Oblivion bomb once it started, which kind of makes the "it just started" argument a little weak, given that the bomb had been activated and Orion stopped it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And Thor absorbed it in totality even after it had exploded. Into his own body. Not really sure how he was able to drain the power of a bomb that existed in every point in time simultaneously but whatever, Mjolnir is awesome.
Originally posted by ODG
The Oblivion Bomb's reversal by Orion's Astroforce was, to put it lightly, rather anti-climactic. I'm a fan of Byrne, but that scene was just terribly done.
Yes, the whole thing was...awful. From the buildup to the execution to the follow through, none of it conveyed any sense of actual universal danger, heroics, or anything really.
Everything here except two scenarios posed by Janus is just Marvel vs DC (but then again...). There is very little room for objectivity as opposed to outright bias as seen here. Cognito is the only one trying to explain things besides "I like said company more".
What about...
Mimic kamikazes himself at half the speed of light against the following character's backs:
Thor
Surfer
Superman
Wonder Woman
What happens?
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Originally posted by Cogito
Yes, the Oblivion bomb was designed to reverse the expansion of the universe and collapse everything into a giant black hole. Does it really matter how it works though?But, according to Metron in the scans I provided, the Astro-Force was the only thing in the universe capable of stopping the Oblivion bomb once it started, which kind of makes the "it just started" argument a little weak, given that the bomb had been activated and Orion stopped it.
I think it does. Releasing an energy blast on par with a nuclear bomb or splitting an atom and creating a nuclear explosion ultimately has the same effect, but the process with which you achieve said effect is a distinction worth noting and is very crucial when going about preventing the cause.
Well, obviously the Astro Force is not the only thing capable of stopping the bomb (Speaking literally) although for some reason, Metron said nothing could stop the explosion despite Orion being there (Is Metron bipolar?).
I'm just saying that it's one thing containing an explosion that would atomize the Universe and another stopping an effect that would gradually destroy the Universe. Both still incredibly impressive but not quite the same in terms of sheer raw power. I guess I might just be excessively nitpicky at the moment. If that's the case, just ignore me.
Originally posted by Cogito
No doubt the God Bomb was beastly. I'm not trying to undersell it at all, but I think the Oblivion bomb is about as good a cross-company comparison as we can get. Unfortunately, the Astro-Force doesn't ever get used to anything near it's potential, and so that's the one remotely comparable feat we have to go on. I'd also be curious to see if/what a mother box could do in that situation.
No worries man. I guess, but the God Bomb is on a whole different level from the Oblivion Bomb. I mean, if it's your gut feeling that Orion being a powerful counterpart of Thor would be able to succeed, that's cool but that's different from evidence.
Let me put it this way: I think Thor could replicate the planet benching of Superman's if he was put in a similar situation but I'm not going to post him lifting a Skyscraper and pretend that's evidence that he'd succeed.
Hopefully, I'm getting my point across.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Everything here except two scenarios posed by Janus is just Marvel vs DC (but then again...). There is very little room for objectivity as opposed to outright bias as seen here. Cognito is the only one trying to explain things besides "I like said company more".What about...
Mimic kamikazes himself at half the speed of light against the following character's backs:
Thor
Surfer
Superman
Wonder WomanWhat happens?
No.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Pick your Diana and I will explain how.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Everything here except two scenarios posed by Janus is just Marvel vs DC (but then again...). There is very little room for objectivity as opposed to outright bias as seen here.
Honestly, this thread has a good premise, but ruining it with "Look at how the character from MY company is way better than yours" makes it look terrible.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think it does. Releasing an energy blast on par with a nuclear bomb or splitting an atom and creating a nuclear explosion ultimately has the same effect, but the process with which you achieve said effect is a distinction worth noting and is very crucial when going about preventing the cause.Well, obviously the Astro Force is not the only thing capable of stopping the bomb (Speaking literally) although for some reason, Metron said nothing could stop the explosion despite Orion being there (Is Metron bipolar?).
I'm just saying that it's one thing containing an explosion that would atomize the Universe and another stopping an effect that would gradually destroy the Universe. Both still incredibly impressive but not quite the same in terms of sheer raw power. I guess I might just be excessively nitpicky at the moment. If that's the case, just ignore me.
No worries man. I guess, but the God Bomb is on a whole different level from the Oblivion Bomb. I mean, if it's your gut feeling that Orion being a powerful counterpart of Thor would be able to succeed, that's cool but that's different from evidence.
Let me put it this way: I think Thor could replicate the planet benching of Superman's if he was put in a similar situation but I'm not going to post him lifting a Skyscraper and pretend that's evidence that he'd succeed.
Hopefully, I'm getting my point across.
I get it, it's not the best comparison imaginable. It just is the only comparison we have to work with 😬
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Everything here except two scenarios posed by Janus is just Marvel vs DC (but then again...). There is very little room for objectivity as opposed to outright bias as seen here. Cognito is the only one trying to explain things besides "I like said company more".What about...
Mimic kamikazes himself at half the speed of light against the following character's backs:
Thor
Surfer
Superman
Wonder WomanWhat happens?
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Originally posted by Cogito
Not really very familiar with Mimic. Why is it significant that it's him doing the kamikaze-ing?
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/KingHyperion/Fight/fight%208/6.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/KingHyperion/Fight/fight%208/7.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/KingHyperion/Fight/fight%208/8.jpg
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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because it actually happened, and I don't remember too many fights where people moving at high speeds actually hit something really hard. It's a pretty incredible hit though, and it'd be interesting to see what it'd do to others with a cheapshot.http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/KingHyperion/Fight/fight%208/6.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/KingHyperion/Fight/fight%208/7.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/KingHyperion/Fight/fight%208/8.jpg
What about...
Mimic kamikazes himself at half the speed of light against the following character's backs:
Thor
Surfer
Superman
Wonder Woman
What happens?
Thor- The Odinson is rendered completely unconscious with no internal injuries.
Surfer- Norrin is completely KO'd by the impact. No significant injuries.
Superman- Clark is severely concussed but still conscious. No injuries.
Wonder Woman- Diana is knocked out and suffers some minor injuries.