How Powerful is Nihilus?

Originally posted by XRKun
Is this based off only his drain? Or could he beat Krayt, Sunrider, and Shan through other means?

It's his drain.

You're both forgetting something - a quote by Plagueis; "The Force provides", if a Sith is greater in the Force and has a few basic skill sets like the augmentation of reaction times, physical stats, TK, lightning, etc. than a being that is ten times stronger in the Force will have abilities that are ten times more lethal.

It's not just his ability to Force drain.

Nihilus is pretty much a cosmic Force of nature, like Marvel's Phoenix or something. Or a better example might be Galactus, except Nihilus doesn't wear a stupid hat.

Don't bring comic-dom into this. If anything Plagueis' experiment destroyed Krypton. Not making this up.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Nihilus is pretty much a cosmic Force of nature, like Marvel's Phoenix or something. Or a better example might be Galactus, except Nihilus doesn't wear a stupid hat.

I actually really like this comparison. This makes Visas the Silver Surfer, and the Exile definitely gets to tap Visas whenever she wants. Thus, by the transitive property of banging, I (as the player) get to bang Silver Surfer.

😉

Except Visas does not look like the inside of a Christmas ornament, sounds about right.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He's one of the absolute most powerful Sith Lords. A definite contender for the title of Most Powerful imo.

Lord Vitiate - equal
Darth Bane - equal
Exar Kun - equal
Darth Krayt - above

HoT - equal
Barsen'Thor - above
Nomi Sunrider - above
Satele Shan - above

I think, perhaps Vitiate excepted, he'd do about equally well with each of those. Either his force drain works, or they outfight him.

(And personally, I put Bane/Kun/Krayt at roughly the same tier. The 'best of an era, but not-cheaty-like-Nihilus-or-Vit tier)

Originally posted by Nephthys
He's one of the absolute most powerful Sith Lords. A definite contender for the title of Most Powerful imo.

Darth Bane - equal

I wanted to ask something about this. Many people think (DoE Bane) is below the likes of Maul. Why do you place him on such a high pedestal? Note that i'm not trying to be aggressive or saying you're wrong in any way.

Because he'd ****ing obliterate Maul?

Bane has stupidly powerful feats and is a complete combat monster. His lightning can turn people to ash and his TK can disintegrate. He's got some of the best speed feats in the mythos. He's one of the most well-versed Sith with many holocrons worth of knowledge. In all aspects of combat Bane stands near the top.

Tempest just puts him below Maul based on the stupid, nonsensical assumption that the Sith continuously improved over 1000 years so Maul must be better than Bane. Which is retarded since Maul is explicitly an exception to that idea since he didn't grow better than his master.

Also, Neph is one of the biggest Bane fanboys around. 😉

Not really.

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no, but what im wondering is: Alot of those stupidly powerful feats are done with orbalisks. Do they not amp him as much as everyone thinks they do (power wise)?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
no, but what im wondering is: Alot of those stupidly powerful feats are done with orbalisks. Do they not amp him as much as everyone thinks they do (power wise)?

If they do is rather irrelevant, since this would imply peak-Bane has orbalisks. Same reason why peak-Kun has amulets and no one argues "Kun minus amulets but as a Sith lord" as a viable construct.

Bane even with Maul? That doesn't even begin to make sense.

And this is how we always skip from our beloved Nihilus.

Originally posted by Oneness
Vitiate had far more raw power directly proceeding the act; and easily had the arcane knowledge to obliterate a hapless wound like Nihilus. Abeloth would rip either of them apart, she's needed to feed for millions of years to survive, and she cannot embody this realm anymore unless through a host.

Luke Skywalker as of FoTJ could harness enough light side energy to blow Abeloth's host apart and send here reeling back to the beyond shadows, Vitiate and Nihilus would prove even more defenseless against such a master of the light side.

Enlight me how it is that Vitiate has more raw Force power than blackholynes himself? Don't you mean the opposite!?

How can he nom nom Nihilus!? How can Abeloth nom nom a blackhole!?

How could Luke be not nom nom by Nihilus?

Muscles(stronger in Force) doesn't have any relevance against cancer(Nihilus)

You're silly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Because he'd ****ing obliterate Maul?

Bane has stupidly powerful feats and is a complete combat monster. His lightning can turn people to ash and his TK can disintegrate. He's got some of the best speed feats in the mythos. He's one of the most well-versed Sith with many holocrons worth of knowledge. In all aspects of combat Bane stands near the top.

Tempest just puts him below Maul based on the stupid, nonsensical assumption that the Sith continuously improved over 1000 years so Maul must be better than Bane. Which is retarded since Maul is explicitly an exception to that idea since he didn't grow better than his master.

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