Loki Vs Circe

Started by Q992 pages

It's more like some writers forget how resistant she is. Being highly resistant to telepaths is something that happens in a lot more than Sacrifice.

Though I will mention that even some instances that specifically note she's highly resistant don't say *totally* immune, so maybe Max's world-wipe was simply enough to overpower even that, while Max without doing so wasn't.

Originally posted by Q99
It's more like some writers forget how resistant she is. Being highly resistant to telepaths is something that happens in a lot more than Sacrifice.

Though I will mention that even some instances that specifically note she's highly resistant don't say *totally* immune, so maybe Max's world-wipe was simply enough to overpower even that, while Max without doing so wasn't.


She has exactly two instances of being resistant to TP more than anybody else. Superman is generally more resistant to TP than her.

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I can cite at least five such examples where he resists TP better than her. But a bullshit comic by a fanboy writer in Rucka and suddenly she is immune to TP.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She has exactly two instances of being resistant to TP more than anybody else. Superman is generally more resistant to TP than her.

She resists mental powers often in her own series. Dr. Psycho, the Children of Ares, Circe's power- which, I shall point out, has taken over Superman's mind.

And the lasso, when used in it, gives a level of protection beyond her normal resistance. Some telepaths can control her when she's not using it (and most of the time, it is just on her belt), but if she uses the lasso, then even that won't work.


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Now *that* reads like fanboy stuff- somehow a telepath takes over not only WW, but also Martian Manhunter? And Captain Marvel? (who's telepathy resistant himself) But misses Superman? Unless the telepath was simply not targeting Superman or had their hands full with everyone else and simply couldn't handle so many and mount an assault of any note on Superman, it doesn't make sense.


I can cite at least five such examples where he resists TP better than her. But a bullshit comic by a fanboy writer in Rucka and suddenly she is immune to TP.

No, it's outside of Rucka too. And Rucka's no fanboy.

This is one of the common nonsense arguments against WW. "Well, all the writers who write the characters strong are just fans! How do I know? Well, they write her strong!".

Even though when you stop and check, it's not one writer, it's a half-dozen who write her strong. JLA, different Wondy runs, event titles, yadda yadda.

And remember, Sacrifice was part of one of DC's big events. It wasn't Rucka's planning, it was directly a high editorial plan that Max Lord and a mind-controlled Superman (written in Superman's books, by non-Ruckas) force Wonder Woman to kill Max, and the other JLAers staying back for safety (a part also not in Rucka's side of the story).

You blame Rucka for a result you don't like, but it wasn't Rucka who set things up that way to begin with. It's just sour grapes.

Originally posted by Q99
She resists mental powers often in her own series. Dr. Psycho, the Children of Ares, Circe's power- which, I shall point out, has taken over Superman's mind.
The only relevant one is Circe and her telepathy being magic based is out. Dr. Psycho is a shit telepath.

And the lasso, when used in it, gives a level of protection beyond her normal resistance. Some telepaths can control her when she's not using it (and most of the time, it is just on her belt), but if she uses the lasso, then even that won't work.
Name one telepath who has failed to work TP on her because of lasso and I would name you at least three who've done it after wrapping her in the lasso.

Now *that* reads like fanboy stuff- somehow a telepath takes over not only WW, but also Martian Manhunter? And Captain Marvel? (who's telepathy resistant himself) But misses Superman? Unless the telepath was simply not targeting Superman or had their hands full with everyone else and simply couldn't handle so many and mount an assault of any note on Superman, it doesn't make sense.
That may sound fanboyish to you but superman does absurd things like that regularly. His mental resistance is absurd and that's why sacrifice looks like such a bullshit story.

No, it's outside of Rucka too.
Rucka gave her "Eyes of Palas" upgrade and he was the only onemention it.
And Rucka's no fanboy.
Hahahaha.

This is one of the common nonsense arguments against WW. "Well, all the writers who write the characters strong are just fans! How do I know? Well, they write her strong!".
When they break the status quo for no reason at all? They are being fanboyish.

Even though when you stop and check, it's not one writer, it's a half-dozen who write her strong. JLA, different Wondy runs, event titles, yadda yadda.
If you want I can bring up all the times she has fought top tiers. Its not pretty for her, she is 1-3 against Etrigan FFS and 1-6 against martians.

And remember, Sacrifice was part of one of DC's big events.
So was Countdown to Final Crisis.
It wasn't Rucka's planning, it was directly a high editorial plan that Max Lord and a mind-controlled Superman (written in Superman's books, by non-Ruckas) force Wonder Woman to kill Max, and the other JLAers staying back for safety (a part also not in Rucka's side of the story).
Tell me, why did a superman event ended in Wonder Woman's book? It was all Rucka. Johns partially retconned it later in Booster Gold.

You blame Rucka for a result you don't like, but it wasn't Rucka who set things up that way to begin with. It's just sour grapes.
No, I blame Rucka for writing a shit story just like every other writer I do. It has nothing to do with a fight and it was a draw at the end to begin with.

Loki wins...or Superman. Wait what is this thread about again?