What would you do if you had the money to stay 25 for 1,000 years?

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Would you choose to stay young or grow old?

What would you do if you had the money to stay 25 for 1,000 years?

Cambridge researcher Aubrey de Grey argues that aging is merely a disease -- and a curable one at that. Humans age in seven basic ways, he says, all of which can be averted.

Aubrey de Grey, British researcher on aging, claims he has drawn a roadmap to defeat biological aging. He provocatively proposes that the first human beings who will live to 1,000 years old have already been born

We cannot live for a 1,000. I think the max that a human body could last is around 300 years. The reason for this is the molecule that allows the chromosomes to split will only last that long. So after 300 years your body would fall apart.

Irrelevant, this thread is asking if you'd accept biomedical life-extension if the technology somehow became emergent and readily available to you.

Spoiler:
Which it won't because the shadow government will have access to it first, and probably already do, and don't care to share.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We cannot live for a 1,000. I think the max that a human body could last is around 300 years. The reason for this is the molecule that allows the chromosomes to split will only last that long. So after 300 years your body would fall apart.

What arguments do you have for the information presented by Mr. Video in my hyperlink?

Originally posted by Dolos
Irrelevant, this thread is asking if you'd accept medical life-extension.

What arguments do you have for the information presented by Mr. Video in my hyperlink?

I can't look at youtube. It is blocked on my computer.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I can't look at youtube. It is blocked on my computer.
There are a lot of technicalities.

But you do not need to know them for this thread.

Agelessness, no adverse side-effects, yes or no?

Originally posted by Dolos
There are a lot of technicalities.

But you do not need to know them for this thread.

Agelessness, no adverse side-effects, yes or no?

I think that after a few hundred years I would commit suicide. Things would have changed too much. Just in my life time, the world has changed so much that I have a hard time keeping up.

I think a world like you are describing would be much like the one in Gulliver's Travels where the people could not die. The older you got the more of an outcast you became.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think that after a few hundred years I would commit suicide. Things would have changed too much. Just in my life time, the world has changed so much that I have a hard time keeping up.

I think a world like you are describing would be much like the one in Gulliver's Travels where the people could not die. The older you got the more of an outcast you became.

You don't think you have what it takes to adapt, ay?

Rightfully so, that's why it's up to us to take evolution out of the hands of natural selection and into our own hands.

Immortality is already a form of human-enhancement, "transhumanism". So why not opt for super-intelligence, why not make it a point to conquer your limitations, along with everything else? You'd only become an outcast if you accept that you do not have what it takes to be happy.

Why not just give up right now? Humans are not set in their ways, a normal healthy person is the result of DnA being changed the environment.

Each and every one of our talents and abilities and good looks or lack thereof are the result of what nature has given us, yes. But not necessarily all we have available to us from what we were born with. We are the result of a set of selected genes telling their minds how to think and behave, and telling their bodies how to grow and what to look like. Even for an average person with average genetics, those selected genes are the tip of the iceberg, just a few, most of a person's genes are dormant at any given point in time. Sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes that's a bad thing. There's a gene that is responsible for your body's homeostasis that could be keeping you over weight, might want to shut that off through better lifestyle choices.

It is through lifestyle we can access any of them, any hapless individual, even with some disabilities, is capable of unlocking more talent than anyone else in history.

Genetic modification is just a more advanced form of a progressive lifestyle. Through transhumanism people with down syndrome can change entirely, no more down syndrome, but more, they'll become super-human, as capable of accomplishing daunting tasks as the transhuman versions of you and me, but very different in the way any one else thinks all the same.

I would rather reincarnate. I get a fresh new body that has evolved over time while your body is the old model. :-)

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would rather reincarnate. I get a fresh new body that has evolved over time while your body is the old model. :-)
I think that it is erroneous to concur that my entire existence is the result of what either you or some ancient book says it is - I think it's up to the individual to define their existence and I don't think groups should dogmatically share in that definition.

Anyway, I won't have the old model, even now I'm being shaped by my environment and by the choices I make.

Originally posted by Dolos
I think that it is erroneous to concur that my entire existence is the result of what either you or some ancient book says it is - I think it's up to the individual to define their existence and I don't think groups should dogmatically share in that definition.

Anyway, I won't have the old model, even now I'm being shaped by my environment and by the choices I make.

🤨 Are you on drugs?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
🤨 Are you on drugs?
Because I don't believe in reincarnation.

I don't believe death is the end of things. I don't think the universe functions according to "laws" (I like Rupert Sheldrake's idea of "habits"😉 or even that it is possible for us to understand it with any degree of certainty.

I wouldn't mind sticking around for as long as I want, provided I'm in good health (mentally, physically and emotionally), there's lots to see and do and it would help to acquire a greater appreciation of the universe.

But what if we exist in another state, post-death, like the Hindu idea of cycles of existence between man and gods/demons etc... or some such?

Originally posted by Dolos
Because I don't believe in reincarnation.

Like I give a shit what you believe. I said "I" would rather... I'm not telling you what to do.

Originally posted by janus77
But what if we exist in another state, post-death, like the Hindu idea of cycles of existence between man and gods/demons etc... or some such?

I don't worry about whether or not a religion like Christianity is actually fact, I can't help but feel like that statement is silly and ridiculous. Moreover, "fearing God" is unnecessary and unscientific and religious dogma can have negative affects. Religious stories contain morals and insights, and it always helps to learn, but I read everything, not just religion, I find actual history far more insightful.

Only 1000? It'd be great and all, but I want the comfort and security that only eternal youth can bring.

Originally posted by Dolos
I don't worry about whether or not a religion like Christianity is actually fact, I can't help but feel like that statement is silly and ridiculous. Moreover, "fearing God" is unnecessary and unscientific and religious dogma can have negative affects. Religious stories contain morals and insights, and it always helps to learn, but I read everything, not just religion, I find actual history far more insightful.

I'm sorry but you've completely failed to comprehend the meaning of what I wrote.

He does that.

I think he has a cross up his butt.

Originally posted by janus77
I'm sorry but you've completely failed to comprehend the meaning of what I wrote.
I did not fail to comprehend your belief in life after death, I simply refuse to indulge such thoughts because I understand them as purely products of the imagination, wandering too far out of the here and now can be time consuming, and a wasteful use of the mind.

Regarding Shakyamunison's crass statement, I am actually very glad that I am free to expressively disassociate from any religious institution, so that I can be free from the distraction, so that some slickly suggested fear of being a slave to my devices does not divert my attention or thwart my otherwise productive pursuits.

I knew it! Don't worry, you will get over it.