Gods From Immortals vs Superman

Originally posted by quanchi112
Strength feats and speed make Superman too slow to compete. He is decimated.

I've asked you this repeatedly before you disappeared. Quantify the speed feat, and do it properly. Because the difference in speed is not great by any margin. As for strength, no. Clearly Supermans strength and actual durability during actual battles, and not your cherrypicked early scene snaps pretty much solidify my point beyond any assailable point you have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Leave your family out of this.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I wonder if you're parents know the things you say online.

Don't bring up my parents or any member of my family again. Ever.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I've asked you this repeatedly before you disappeared. Quantify the speed feat, and do it properly. Because the difference in speed is not great by any margin. As for strength, no. Clearly Supermans strength and actual durability during actual battles, and not your cherrypicked early scene snaps pretty much solidify my point beyond any assailable point you have.

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Don't bring up my parents or any member of my family again. Ever.

You brought them into this. Leave them out its Christmas.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't need to quantify it at all. We can tell it is vastly faster than Superman's. If you deny this then you're just trolling.

No Quan, asking you to back your claim is not trolling. Here is a stark fact of the matter: You do not know the extent of how much faster they are. You can observe it, but you for the life of you cannot calculate by how much, nor can you demonstrate how much more speed it would take to overcome Zod Fight Superman's overall durability. And until you produce these facets to your claim, it is entirely speculator, and relegated to unproven claim, not established fact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You brought them into this. Leave them out its Christmas.

Quan, if you even mention it again, and I mean EVER again, I will report you directly to Ush. Do you understand me? I'm not playing any more games with regards to this subject. You've had the only warning I intend to give.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No Quan, asking you to back your claim is not trolling. Here is a stark fact of the matter: You do not know the extent of how much faster they are. You can observe it, but you for the life of you cannot calculate by how much, nor can you demonstrate how much more speed it would take to overcome Zod Fight Superman's overall durability. And until you produce these facets to your claim, it is entirely speculator, and relegated to unproven claim, not established fact.

Quan, if you even mention it again, and I mean EVER again, I will report you directly to Ush. Do you understand me? I'm not playing any more games with regards to this subject. You've had the only warning I intend to give.

Superman and Zod don't show speed anywhere near to as quickly as Ares feat.

Immortals win.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Most things are not calculated. You conceded they are faster and more numerous so you agree with my claims.

I did say they were faster, but I never said by how much, and neither did you. Nor can you prove that the speed advantage is as grand as you claim, because you can't even produce a magnitude. The speed they would need to actually cause lasting damage, nevermind killing Superman, would have to be more than 35 orders of magnitude. There is simply no possible way they get outside of low end single digit multipliers. Nowhere near sufficient.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman and Zod don't show speed anywhere near to as quickly as Ares feat.

Except they don't need to be that fast in order to win. HV and good reflexes are all they need outside of their insane durability.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Immortals win.

No proof, no purchase.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I did say they were faster, but I never said by how much, and neither did you. Nor can you prove that the speed advantage is as grand as you claim, because you can't even produce a magnitude. The speed they would need to actually cause lasting damage, nevermind killing Superman, would have to be more than 35 orders of magnitude. There is simply no possible way they get outside of low end single digit multipliers. Nowhere near sufficient.

Except they don't need to be that fast in order to win. HV and good reflexes are all they need outside of their insane durability.

No proof, no purchase.

Superman barely ever uses hv. Lol and he will be overwhelmed by their speed and numerical advantages.

You conceded to my claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You agreed they are faster. I don't need to prove a claim I never made. I said they were faster and you agree. We see strength feats and weapons which prove otherwise.

We see very little of the actual strength required to overcome Kal's durability. None of them are packing Kryptonite, none of them are blasting red sun radiation, and unless you want to go left field and claim they can use magic to bypass it, it's nto happening. And again, you fail to address the magnitude required for that speed to make a difference.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman barely ever uses hv. Lol and he will be overwhelmed by their speed and numerical advantages.

The numerical advantage is also the achillies heel. Not to mention widebeam is also an option, or if not that, broad sweeps. None of them are lightspeeders.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You conceded to my claims.

I conceded nothing. Your not paying attention. Or your simply not reading my posts in their entirety.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
We see very little of the actual strength required to overcome Kal's durability. None of them are packing Kryptonite, none of them are blasting red sun radiation, and unless you want to go left field and claim they can use magic to bypass it, it's nto happening. And again, you fail to address the magnitude required for that speed to make a difference.

The numerical advantage is also the achillies heel. Not to mention widebeam is also an option, or if not that, broad sweeps. None of them are lightspeeders.

I conceded nothing. Your not paying attention. Or your simply not reading my posts in their entirety.

They are far too fast to hit Superman and have one enemy to engage unlike Supedman who doesn't want to kill unless innocents are threatened.

You conceded to my claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Strength feats and speed make Superman too slow to compete. He is decimated.

Leave your family out of this.

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Supes wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What did we see Zod or his allies do which is comparable to Zeus' feat.

Crashing through buildings at the speed of sound and taking blows from Superman before he properly acclimatized to Earths gravity trumps the Gods durability feats in spades. The gods are weak against mortal weapons. This suggests that they are also bound by mortal rules and physics or at least to the realm they are fighting in

There is nothing that suggests that the Gods are faster than, Superman. They may be more agile but they lack flight and require a physical weapon to transfer damage.

Even if Zues' existence erasing powers were relevant here, he would have to catch, Superman.

I'm not saying the Gods can't kill Superman but on paper, Superman has all of the advantages. I'm all for arguing theoretical fights that "should" be won by statistics. I play devils advocate more than most here. I do, however need some kind of imaginative suggestion that makes me question the "statistical" favorite. I've thought of many possibilities the Gods could employ but none put a dent into the argument...,"well Superman can just fly around shooting lasers until everyones dead".

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Crashing through buildings at the speed of sound and taking blows from Superman before he properly acclimatized to Earths gravity trumps the Gods durability feats in spades. The gods are weak against mortal weapons. This suggests that they are also bound by mortal rules and physics or at least to the realm they are fighting in

There is nothing that suggests that the Gods are faster than, Superman. They may be more agile but they lack flight and require a physical weapon to transfer damage.

Even if Zues' existence erasing powers were relevant here, he would have to catch, Superman.

I'm not saying the Gods can't kill Superman but on paper, Superman has all of the advantages. I'm all for arguing theoretical fights that "should" be won by statistics. I play devils advocate more than most here. I do, however need some kind of imaginative suggestion that makes me question the "statistical" favorite. I've thought of many possibilities the Gods could employ but none put a dent into the argument...,"well Superman can just fly around shooting lasers until everyones dead".

Superman gets tagged left and right by slower characters than the gods here.

The only people that tagged superman in a fight were fellow kryptonions if I spelt that right. Superman has shown to be way over most of the gods, the only ones useful are Zeus and Poseidon.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
The only people that tagged superman in a fight were fellow kryptonions if I spelt that right. Superman has shown to be way over most of the gods, the only ones useful are Zeus and Poseidon.

Zeus and Poseidon are the only ones that actually had good feats. Ares showed one but was one shoted by Zeus so it shows has shitty durability he had. Superman also survived the giant gravity thing that was picking up and throwing down several skyscrapers at once. I believe he also destroyed it.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Zeus and Poseidon are the only ones that actually had good feats. Ares showed one but was one shoted by Zeus so it shows has shitty durability he had. Superman also survived the giant gravity thing that was picking up and throwing down several skyscrapers at once. I believe he also destroyed it.

That wasn't a water tank.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
That wasn't a water tank.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If we look at the feats the gods are a lot faster than Superman as well as have the numerical advantage. I

Superman gets tagged left and right by slower characters than the gods here.

I don't see numbers being an issue here since Superman can easily divide and conquer .

Yeah, Superman definitely took his fair share of blows but that didn't slow him down.

I don't see any of them hurting him. They lack the strength to cut or hurt him, considering his peers could not do it, I don't see less powerful being hurting him.