Originally posted by Sin I AM
My argument is that he holds back...alot. it can be said that his powers are dynamic in the sense that he can will himself weaker or stronger but there is a definitive cap outside of amping. I don't have a plethora of scans but the only canon example of him fully unleashed is dos...oh and owaw. And even using these I still dont see him as above hh
You're wrong.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Which ones? Like covering the earth with asteroids, bringing kitty back from space, or manipulating the iron in an enemy's blood?HOLLA!!
His team busting fts. Also, I don't think Magneto will pull a majority but him being there puts a hindrance on Clark getting the majority. This doesn't include Doom showings either.
Magneto is capable of winning by himself. He's just not likely to on average, or for a majority.
I can get hit by a bus if I stand in the middle of the street, after all.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
My argument is that he holds back...alot. it can be said that his powers are dynamic in the sense that he can will himself weaker or stronger but there is a definitive cap outside of amping. I don't have a plethora of scans but the only canon example of him fully unleashed is dos...oh and owaw. And even using these I still dont see him as above hh
you think those are the only examples? really?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Magneto is capable of winning by himself. He's just not likely to on average, or for a majority.I can get hit by a bus if I stand in the middle of the street, after all.
you think those are the only examples? really?
Yea that I recall. Im s casual reader of SM not an avid fan. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of every canon feat
In DOS he killed a guy who defeated the JLA (maxima, guy, bloodwyn and some chumps) with one hand
Right there you have a team with 3 top tiers
In OWAW he was one shotting characters that were owning teams, one shotting, not barelly surviving.
In panic in the sky he was fighting a bunch of mind controlled top tiers.
There is also those examples from worlds collide, the outsiders, public. enemies.
Doom solo's. With a minute prep, Doom analyses all of Superman's weaknesses, finds he has no resistance to magic, and while Superman tries to break through his shield, Doom casts a spell that one shots him.
Superman is not getting through his shields. They have tanked blasts from Galactus and Thanos with the infinity gauntlet. And superman can't phase through because Doom's shield isn't matter, it's pure energy.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
In DOS he killed a guy who defeated the JLA (maxima, guy, bloodwyn and some chumps) with one handRight there you have a team with 3 top tiers
In OWAW he was one shotting characters that were owning teams, one shotting, not barelly surviving.
In panic in the sky he was fighting a bunch of mind controlled top tiers.
There is also those examples from worlds collide, the outsiders, public. enemies.
Meh..some can be disputed and countered. Do u think he is a tier above his peers?
Originally posted by Warlord
team still needs. formidable superman may be, I don't think that people take into account Doom's magical abilities, Supes weakness to it (especially in DCnu) the prep time and the people backing Doom.
Tough fight but team wins
Magic is not a weakness but a vulnerability.
Kryptonite is a weakness, you get superman close to k and he starst getting weaker.
if magic was a weakness, superman will get weak just by standing next to Dr. Fate.
and on his high showings he has been able to resist magic from a demon lord on a demon realm whose power on her realm.was stated to be "absolute"
what I mean is that magic can hurt him and I wager that he would find it harder to break through amgical shield than a normal one.
In any case since we are not hand picking only high or low showings I say that there are a couple of powerful spells that Doom can invoke eithin the prepe time to assit them. Having Mags and Ronan backing him up only makes it easier for him