Zatanna and Ibis are the weak links IMO.
Alan and Fate can take it to the likes of SS, Nova, Quasar etc. (BTW your image of Fate is Mordru not Fate when he had acquired the artifacts from Hector). Etrigan and Marvel can certainly make a decant battle with and BRB, Gladiator or Ronan.
I just can't see Zee or Ibis carrying their end of the action vs anyone for any time period that will do any good.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I'll give you Ibis, but Z isn't a weak link. I'd give the edge to Z over Ronan.
Zee was in a world of hurt vs Lobo in Reign in hell. She could not match Blue Devil in his series when he was possessed. I would say Ronan could give either one a good fight (and IMO would beat BD unless he uncharacteristically used the full power of his trident which he's only ever used against the hell lord Nebrios)
Zee is out of her league here.
Originally posted by beatboks
Zee was in a world of hurt vs Lobo in Reign in hell. She could not match Blue Devil in his series when he was possessed. I would say Ronan could give either one a good fight (and IMO would beat BD unless he uncharacteristically used the full power of his trident which he's only ever used against the hell lord Nebrios)Zee is out of her league here.
Lobo isn't a good example, seeing as who he has taken down. Lobo would murder most of the Annihilators anyway.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Lobo isn't a good example, seeing as who he has taken down. Lobo would murder most of the Annihilators anyway.
He wouldn't "murder" any of the Annihaltors. Ronan has a universal weapon that allows him to energy and matter manipulate amongst other things. He can match Zee across the board when it comes to that and then has the enhances physicals and durability of his armor.
Blue Devil on the other hand is weaker than Ronan, around the same durability, and has less offensive abilities. but we ignore that one because it doesn't count huh?? I could list a few dozen more examples who would be stomped by Ronan. With the exception of Nu52 her magic for most of the 80's to 00's was limited purely to the elements (wind, water, fire, earth), plus she has to be able to vocalize what she wants. With cosmic awareness SS and Quasar are both going to know that at the instant battle starts. They can remove her threat by making it impossible for her to speak as a side thought also (with tp can they let the rest of the team know and they can also)
Originally posted by Darksaint85was worth nothing since it didn't work as the "price" for the magic was too high and it caused her more harm than him. So even if Ronan does "split his own head open like a melon" what good does it do if she's so bucked over in pain anyone can take her out as a side thought??
That spell she used against Lobo? Reverse all physical harm?
Ronan splits his own head open like a melon.
Originally posted by beatboks
He wouldn't "murder" any of the Annihaltors. Ronan has a universal weapon that allows him to energy and matter manipulate amongst other things. He can match Zee across the board when it comes to that and then has the enhances physicals and durability of his armor.Blue Devil on the other hand is weaker than Ronan, around the same durability, and has less offensive abilities. but we ignore that one because it doesn't count huh?? I could list a few dozen more examples who would be stomped by Ronan. With the exception of Nu52 her magic for most of the 80's to 00's was limited purely to the elements (wind, water, fire, earth), plus she has to be able to vocalize what she wants. With cosmic awareness SS and Quasar are both going to know that at the instant battle starts. They can remove her threat by making it impossible for her to speak as a side thought also (with tp can they let the rest of the team know and they can also)
was worth nothing since it didn't work as the "price" for the magic was too high and it caused her more harm than him. So even if Ronan does "split his own head open like a melon" what good does it do if she's so bucked over in pain anyone can take her out as a side thought??
Because it takes Ronan off the board, for the price of 'the weakest member' on team mystic.
Hell, we could switch Ronan out, and replace with Gladiator, or Nova Prime, or anyone else if needed.
