Originally posted by NemeBro
Ganondorf's best feats do not imply he can survive the Blade of Olympus to his face.
Love the elaboration going on here. What's the Blade going to do? Not shit unless it somehow surpasses the Master Sword in power, which I don't specifically recall.
That attack that destroyed a large wooden structure? Oh please.
I guess you missed the part where Ganondorf was completely unharmed, and that he has greater feats.
Compared to Kratos who was sent through the side of a mountain by its volcanic eruption and was uninjured.
As if I care. I've already considered this, and it doesn't help Kratos bypass Ganon's defenses. These feats actually sound similar in level. The difference being that Ganondorf was already narrowed down tremendously.
So... He doesn't need to breathe?
Apparently not. Be a little more dishonest, why don't you?! You seem now to be implying that a flood lacks destructive force. uhuh It's certainly more than Poseidon has done, wouldn't you agree?
He sure does need it to fight though.
Point being Kratos can't destroy him.
By hitting him really really hard.
I'm getting tired of repeating myself. mariofacepalm Has he a means of overruling Ganon's immortality? His might alone isn't going to do it.
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Love the elaboration going on here. What's the Blade going to do? Not shit unless it somehow surpasses the Master Sword in power, which I don't specifically recall.
The Blade is going to cut him.
The Megaton Hammer could hurt him, if only a bit, for example.
The Blade of Olympus' destructive power is such that in its first showing it unleashed a blast that single-handedly ended the Great Titan War, killing/imprisoning dozens of Titans in but one attack.
I guess you missed the part where Ganondorf was completely unharmed, and that he has greater feats.
I did not.
As if I care. I've already considered this, and it doesn't help Kratos bypass Ganon's defenses. These feats actually sound similar in level. The difference being that Ganondorf was already narrowed down tremendously.
They are not similar in level. Kratos' is better.
Apparently not. Be a little more dishonest, why don't you?! You seem now to be implying that a flood lacks destructive force. uhuh It's certainly more than Poseidon has done, wouldn't you agree?
Poseidon, who could tear through Titans', throw them around, and did in fact flood the world with his death throes? No, I would not.
Point being Kratos can't destroy him.
Based on?
I'm getting tired of repeating myself. mariofacepalm Has he a means of overruling Ganon's immortality? His might alone isn't going to do it.
He overrules it by being stronger.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The Blade is going to cut him.The Megaton Hammer could hurt him, if only a bit, for example.
The Blade of Olympus' destructive power is such that in its first showing it unleashed a blast that single-handedly ended the Great Titan War, killing/imprisoning dozens of Titans in but one attack.
You forget the Megaton Hammer can't kill him, so referencing it is moot. There are things besides the Master Sword designed to kill him that actually fail to do so. The Fused Shadows hurt him very little, if at all, and still failed to do any visible damage. The Light Arrows, which are comprised of continental+ level force, can only so much as stun him. My point: hurting him is not the problem; killing him is.
I make no attempt to deny that the BoO is powerful. I'm simply not convinced that it's the tool for the job. While it is his best bet, Olympian weapons are still comprised of earthly forces, something that has never phased Ganon. The Master Sword, on the other hand, was forged of pure divine energy, and easily stands at planetary+ level, as it was built specifically as a failsafe for the complete Triforce. The Blade of Olympus doesn't have this advantage.
I did not.
Good.
They are not similar in level. Kratos' is better.
This is the part where you would ask anyone else to prove it.
Poseidon, who could tear through Titans', throw them around, and did in fact flood the world with his death throes? No, I would not.
He had to die to accomplish his biggest feat, which still left over more uncovered landmass than the entirety of Wind Waker.
Based on?
I've already told you. Kratos has no answer to the ToP, and before you say it, "strength" isn't it.
He overrules it by being stronger.
Stronger than what is capable of draining/freezing lakes, restarting volcanoes, conjuring multi-continental storms, "turning off" the sun, all with the bulk of their power sealed? Yeah, no.
Originally posted by Sacred 117
You forget the Megaton Hammer can't kill him, so referencing it is moot.
But it sure as **** can beat the shit out of him, as can Biggoron's Sword.
There are things besides the Master Sword designed to kill him that actually fail to do so. The Fused Shadows hurt him very little, if at all, and still failed to do any visible damage.
The Fused Shadows:
A. Were not designed to kill him.
B. Are, based on showings, not even near the power of the BoO.
The Light Arrows, which are comprised of continental+ level force, can only so much as stun him.
Point to the continental feats of the Light Arrows.
My point: hurting him is not the problem; killing him is.
Show me Ganondorf surviving attacks backed up with as much force as the BoO can bring to bear.
I make no attempt to deny that the BoO is powerful. I'm simply not convinced that it's the tool for the job. While it is his best bet, Olympian weapons are still comprised of earthly forces, something that has never phased Ganon.
The Master Sword, on the other hand, was forged of pure divine energy, and easily stands at planetary+ level, as it was built specifically as a failsafe for the complete Triforce. The Blade of Olympus doesn't have this advantage.
Hurr?
"Then Zeus created a powerful weapon. A weapon forged from the Heavens and the Earth."
- Atlas
It is a divine weapon, forged by a god within the setting, and it's feats of destruction are easily on the level with the mythical feats of the Master Sword, if not above.
This is the part where you would ask anyone else to prove it.
The volcanic eruption that Kratos withstood unharmed destroyed the island of Atlantis.
Also, Krakatoa's eruption in the late 1800's released more energy than Tsar Bomba, the most powerful bomb ever built IRL. It also failed to destroy the island it was on, unlike Kratos'.
He had to die to accomplish his biggest feat, which still left over more uncovered landmass than the entirety of Wind Waker.
There were bigger mountains in God of War, and... Ganondorf can't flood the world either, so I am unsure of the relevance.
I've already told you. Kratos has no answer to the ToP, and before you say it, "strength" isn't it.
Strength and a powerful divine weapon are.
Stronger than what is capable of draining/freezing lakes, restarting volcanoes, conjuring multi-continental storms, "turning off" the sun, all with the bulk of their power sealed? Yeah, no.
"Conjuring multi-continental storms", lol.
Ganondorf has no feats above island level in terms of quantifiable destructive feats. The Lake Hylia one was quantified to be multi-city block in terms of the energy that went into it.
Restarting which volcano? Because if you are talking about Death Mountain, Volvagia did that, though Ganondorf probably could, and it still isn't on par with what Kratos has endured and combated. Even ****ing Apollo can outright vaporize an island with the power he bestows to mortals, as seen in the GoW prequel comic.
Kratos wins.