Thanos VS Worldbreaker Hulk

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Originally posted by Decimus
Like how Thanos slaps hulk and surfer lol

If you can, yes. Might do you some good 🙂.

Originally posted by janus77
If you can, yes. Might do you some good 🙂.

Its more likely Surfer is randomly teleported into the arena were Thanos promptly places him in an arm bar- Surfer proceeds to faint then Thanos kicks hulk into the sun.

Originally posted by Decimus
Its more likely Surfer is randomly teleported into the arena were Thanos promptly places him in an arm bar- Surfer proceeds to faint then Thanos kicks hulk into the sun.

Thanos is just protected by the same PISforce that protects Captain America.

All characters have their lows and highs but Thanos in general is written beyond Hulk's level even WBH.

Originally posted by Decimus
All characters have their lows and highs but Thanos in general is written beyond Hulk's level even WBH.

Not at all. Without amps or Death's assistance, Thanos is well below WBH.

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Originally posted by janus77
"trans-level attack" is not a comic-book measure, it's just KMC nerdgasmic puffery.

What is depicted on-panel, is that Thanos took BB's scream + a bomb, the devastation of the combination was much less than city-wide.

But then Odin and Galactus attacks are weaker than a City level attack? You are really saying that ?

If it hurted Thanos, who tanked a planetary explosion, who Koed a starbuster, Then This attack must be stronger than City level.

Originally posted by janus77
Thanos is just protected by the same PISforce that protects Captain America.

Sorry, but when we talk about PIS is almost impossible to beat the Hulk. Everyone know WWH is full of PIS.

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Originally posted by eaebiakuya
But then Odin and Galactus attacks are weaker than a City level attack? You are really saying that ?

If it hurted Thanos, who tanked a planetary explosion, who Koed a starbuster, Then This attack must be stronger than City level.


The same argument when Sentry busts out "The power of a million suns" against Hulk, seems not to hold weight, so why should it for Thanos?

Odin doesn't always hit that powerfully. So, not sure what that's supposed to prove.

As for Galactus, he's supposed to be beyond physical body like an m-body, we only perceive him in the way we can comprehend. So his attacks are on more levels and through more dimensions than purely the physical/present dimension.

Same as the fight with The Galactus Engine, it was supposed to be going on across a range of dimensions.

Also, Galactus has blasted, smacked and eye-beamed Surfer and Hulk before ... So no guarantee that every attack is the same order of power.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Sorry, but when we talk about PIS is almost impossible to beat the Hulk. Everyone know WWH is full of PIS.

No, that's just you filling up with PISs and vinegar.

In no way is WWH more "PIS"-filled than your average arc.

PIS is when a one-time weapon comes out of nowhere to take out a character (Hulk/Thanos during the finale of infinity). Or whenever IM/Thor/Captain America/Hawkeye aren't instantly killed in any big Avengers fight.

Lol. In another thread you say Surfer should not be Koed by Thanos because tanked worst in the past.

Here you try to say Thanos was hurted by a City level attack ( it was not), and ignore that he tanked much more in the past.

I never spoke about Sentry in This thread. For me, he never really had the power o thousand of suns, never was proved. Its a hyperbole IMO.

Originally posted by janus77
No, that's just you filling up with PISs and vinegar.

In no way is WWH more "PIS"-filled than your average arc.

PIS is when a one-time weapon comes out of nowhere to take out a character (Hulk/Thanos during the finale of infinity). Or whenever IM/Thor/Captain America/Hawkeye aren't instantly killed in any big Avengers fight.

PIS is a character dont using his powers, when he can. Like strange choosing to go to a h2h fight against Hulk, when he had others options. Go read KMC definition of a PIS, It is pretty clear.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Lol. In another thread you say Surfer should not be Koed by Thanos because tanked worst in the past.

Here you try to say Thanos was hurted by a City level attack ( it was not), and ignore that he tanked much more in the past.

I never spoke about Sentry in This thread. For me, he never really had the power o thousand of suns, never was proved. Its a hyperbole IMO.


I said Surfer shouldn't have been killed by Thanos' punches. And that is true given what Surfer is (PC in a cosmic glaze) and what he's withstood in the past (and since) just fine. It's the usual Surfer jobbing out to Thanos.

Thanos was hurt by a bomb-amped Scream, that doesn't mean he would have been killed by a city-destroying attack, just that it is a level <<<<<<<<<<<<<< what Hulk can do.

And Thanos has also been wrecked by Runner's attacks, by a blackhole and has been wary of a blackhole that Surfer created too.

There are other instances too, but the point is that it doesn't take a Galactus to beat Thanos, physically.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
PIS is a character dont using his powers, when he can. Like strange choosing to go to a h2h fight against Hulk, when he had others options. Go read KMC definition of a PIS, It is pretty clear.

Go read the comic. Strange didn't choose to go h2h, he was desperate after getting his hands crushed and he resorted to the most powerful demon he could - Zom.

And still, the point remains that you're just raging on hate. Nothing more. There's no justification for the silly stupid stance of "worst PIS evvvvvver", when you have far worse happening in Fear Itself, Chaos Wars, Infinity, any big Avengers battle featuring Cap/IM/Hawkeye ...

Originally posted by janus77
Not at all. Without amps or Death's assistance, Thanos is well below WBH.

WBH is an amp btw and Thanos beat the hulk every time they interacted comically most of the time. I will give you that Thanos did say in the infinity gauntlet arc that he would not wish to battle hulk but then he apparently committed suicide with a nuclear device at the end of said arc-so that should show u how the character has developed and the inconsistency of writers. It seems like u want the amps for Hulk and not to acknowledge the amps uniformly for Thanos. Odin and Tyrant are two enemies that WBH would never have been able to contend with. Even with slight amps he was able to survive these battles and these subtleties add up over time to equal a team busting character. WBH destroyed things in a dimension where matter wasn't the same as it is in normal 616 it is documented if i remember correct by doc strange. WBH has nevertheless some good feats but he cannot compare to Thanos' history or upgrade after upgrade to the point where he is taking Blackbolt's scream (even if he's depowered due to a bomb) to the face point blank plus showing no signs of any real damage from Thor. Believe what u must but Thanos is written to be a larger threat and its definitely not just for his intellect that is just icing he is a composite monster.

Originally posted by Decimus
WBH is an amp...

Whole block of rage-text ... but thankfully it starts with an error, so I'll address that and ignore the rest ✅.

WBH is Green Scar not holding back. No amp at all.

Clearly you haven't read the comics, to make such an elementary error.

It is an amp on the character worked into the arc as a plot device buddy

Originally posted by Decimus
It is an amp on the character worked into the arc as a plot device buddy

No, not at all. You're missing the entire point of the arc, if you think that.

Hulk was always that powerful, but he wouldn't kill nor endanger innocents, which we saw illustrated time and again, during WWH, especially when Cho tried to piss him off.

That's also the reason Hulk _asks_ Umar if there are any innocents in her dimension, because he doesn't want to hold back.

Hulk without Banner's conscious restraints = WBH.
Hulk with Banner holding him back = WWH.

An "amp" is some additional power/tool to bring about extra power that is not innate to the character.

"WBH" is just what Green Scar can do when he doesn't have to worry about innocents/casualties.

You are missing the point of comics. It was a byproduct of the writer deciding to allow a character to "unlock" amplifying their attitude or whatever thing they are allowing to justify giving the character said reasons for their unusual feats. The character is being amplified in some form thus the usage of amp in English. It may not be part of the jargon you normally use but i think it holds up logically in the language you speak and write. But as i said believe what u must Thanos wins.

So basically you want to argue against the comic definition of Hulk?