My Pokemon Challenge

Originally posted by Danny Wayne
@jmoul if you started with pikachu I would start with gengar you would open up with a electric move then I would put you asleep then I would use psychic then a hyper beam you wake up hit me again then I would repeat the same steps. After your pikachu was defeated you would send out alakazam. If I were to survive one of your attacks I probably would use explosion if I had low health. Though it won't take out alakazam it will still be damaged. I would send out my dugtrio and it with a few moves could finish it off. Then you would send out Blastoise and rage stomp my dugtrios face. Then my jolteon would come out and take out your Blastoise. Then you send out dugtrio to beat my jolteon. Then out comes my gyarados to stomp your dugtrio. Then you would send out venasaur and if I survived an attack I would hit you with a fire blast though it won't kill it, it will take a lot of life. When you finish off gyarados my charizard would come out and beat your venasaur. You send out your charizard and they duke it out and because I'm nice I'll let your charizard win. But then my aireodactyl comes out and beats your injured charizard.

My pikachu has taken a Gengar out with one Thunder, but I'll go along with how you see that first battle going. Before going farther, is this battle with 1st gen battle mechanics or with modern mechanics? This will affect my choice for the next pokemon in line.

I was actually going off 1st generation also my gengar has taken several thunderbolts from a level 100 raichu

Originally posted by jmoul
I'm also working on a team on X, here's what I want for the end result:

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You can only have one Mega per team. You definitely could have multiple Mega Stones, but as soon as one of those Mega Evolves, none of the others will be able to and they're wasting an item slot.

Sorry.

Originally posted by Danny Wayne
I was actually going off 1st generation also my gengar has taken several thunderbolts from a level 100 raichu

No EV trained Gengar is taking several thunderbolts by an EV trained Raichu. An EV trained Gengar may take two against a non EV trained Raichu and that's only if you max SPDF.

My Gengar has max pretty much everything i think

Originally posted by Danny Wayne
My Gengar has max pretty much everything i think

Then it's a hacked one, pokemon can only have two maxed stats. Why don't you guys just play these battles on Pokemon Online? It's free and you can settle it that way as opposed to saying what your opponent is going to do to give you the victory?

I actually don't know how to hack a Gameboy this is what I play my blue version on. Yes I know a Gameboy is old as **** but me and it have had great times together when I was young.

In Yellow, the Pikachu you start with has higher stats than a normal Pikachu would. Now, to finish my analysis; since we are in Gen 1 mechanics, after Pikachu goes, my Dugtrio follows, and Earthquakes Gengar to death. You send out Gyrados, taking my Dugtrio out with Hydro Pump. I send out Alakazam and proceed to annoy the sh*t out of you with repeated psychics and recovers until your Gyrados faints. You then respond with Jolteon, taking what's left of Alakazam's HP, I send out Venusaur, who Body Slams Jolteon, then uses mega drain repeatedly until Jolteon is down, but Venusaur takes a good deal of damage. You send your Charizard out, taking Venusaur out with one flamethrower. I send out Blastoise, who takes out Charizard with a hydro pump, followed by a blizzard. Now you have your Dugtrio and Aerodactyl, Dugtrio comes first, and he gets sh*t on. Then Aerodactyl gets a blizzard to the face, he dies.

Originally posted by The Scenario
You can only have one Mega per team. You definitely could have multiple Mega Stones, but as soon as one of those Mega Evolves, none of the others will be able to and they're wasting an item slot.

Sorry.

Well, sh*t, there goes my perfect team.

I think my gayarados could take your alakazam.

Also wei what sites of online pokemon do you recommend I have only played one online but that was a while ago.

Originally posted by Danny Wayne
I think my gayarados could take your alakazam.

Also wei what sites of online pokemon do you recommend I have only played one online but that was a while ago.

Just google Pokemon Online and download the free client and invite him to a battle.

@ jmoul: Without something like Substitute Mega Gengar gets eaten alive by an Earthquake, etc. since it no longer has the levitate trait... Just saying.

Some of those others like Mega Blaziken could also use some reworking moveset-wise, if you ask me.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
@ jmoul: Without something like Substitute Mega Gengar gets eaten alive by an Earthquake, etc. since it no longer has the levitate trait... Just saying.

Some of those others like Mega Blaziken could also use some reworking moveset-wise, if you ask me.

The loss of levitate is why I will never send him out against any ground types, which have the greatest threat to Mega Gengar with Earthquake.

I just gave my goal for my final team, so I'm open to suggestions on how to improve it.

Well non-ground types that learn Earthquake via TM can still trash Mega Gengar too, so you can never be too careful. That's why I'd recommend having something like Substitute over one of the filler moves you got there for it like Toxic, but there's a lot of different things that can be done with Gengar, so eh.. On that note, you don't need it to have two ghost type attacks. Replace either Hex or Shadow Ball (I kept Hex on mine) for a good STAB poison move like Sludge Bomb. It's special, so goes along well with Gengar's sp attack, not to mention is good for them fairies. There's also Dazzling Gleam it can learn for those dark types. Like I said though, lots of things you can do with Gengar.

For Chesnaught, why do you have max special attack for it? I hope that was a typo and that you just meant physical attack, because that's better than its sp attack. I'd recommend Leech Seed or something on it too.

Mega Blaziken... Aerial Ace is pointless to have on it in terms of coverage. Give it Stone Edge or some rock move in its place. Also replace Sky Uppercut with Hi Jump Kick (it can remember it by giving the move tutor in Dendemille Town a heart scale). I also like Flare Blitz over Blaze Kick, though with the recoil damage it might be risky due to Blaziken's lackluster HP and defenses. And there's no need to put any effort values into special attack, as there's no special attacks that benefit Blaziken that much. Needs all the speed it can get if anything, speed boost or not.

For Garchomp, personally prefer Crunch over Slash, but with Slash's critical hit ratio I guess it's alright. Dragon Claw is better than Dragon Rush, unless you really like the possible flinch side effect. And assuming you teach Blaziken Stone Edge, I would replace Garchomp's Stone Edge for Poison Jab, to cover Garchomp's weakness to fairies, and is also good against grass. And there's no reason for Garchomp to have max special attack. I'd recommend just regular Garchomp over the mega-form too, as Garchomp loses plenty of speed when it mega-volves.

Kangaskhan and Blastoise I don't currently use, but am sure there's better advice that could be given for them as well over what you currently got on 'em.

But yeah, like Scenario pointed out, only one Mega Pokemon can be used in battle at a time, so give everyone else Quick Claw, Leftovers, the held items you can win from the Battle Maison, etc. if you're not gonna use them as a Mega for the time being. Out of the ones on your team, I'd recommend keeping Gengar as the mega.

I was thinking that for Chesnaught, being a grass-type, special attack would be good. I'll just say, this is the first pokemon game I've seriously played since Hoenn, so I am only just learning the spread of physical/special attacks for each type, since I'm used to each type having a uniform attack base.

I'm a bit confused about the mega evolutions now, is it that a trainer can only have one mega evolution out at a time in a battle, or only one in an entire battle?

Only one mega can be used in an entire battle.

And don't sweat it. I had kinda been out of the Pokemon scene during most of the last gen and/or the gen before that, and I actually made a similar misjudgment on Delphox as you did on Chesnaught, thinking that physical attack would be good on it too based on the previous fire starters, so I chose a bad nature for my first Delphox as a result. Oh well, live and learn.

Thanks for the help.

Now, on a completely unrelated note, and I'm going to give my honest opinion here, the Delfox line is a sick and ugly joke of the Typhlosion line with an added psychic-type bonus. And Delfox looks ugly as hell.

No problem.

Psychic and fire are two of my favorite types, so out of all the dual-typing they could've done, I'm glad it was that that broke the fire/fighting trend that starters had for awhile. And since I never got to have Victini back when it was an event, Delphox was the first psychic/fire type I got to have.

For being a more feminine Pokemon like Gardevoir, I don't think Delphox looks ugly or that bad. Not my favorite, but it's a freakin psychokinetic fire fox. 'nuff said. Never got why it's so underrated.

And to be honest, as much as I love gen 2 (one of my favorite gens), Typhlosion was like the most underwhelming out of the fire starters for me (usually pick fire starters every time at least the first playthrough). Cyndaquil not gaining an addition type upon evolving prolly had something to do with it. Maybe one day the Johto starters might get more diversity if given the megaform treatment, but until then they're pretty "meh" to me. Meganium's my favorite out of them though.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
And to be honest, as much as I love gen 2 (one of my favorite gens), Typhlosion was like the most underwhelming out of the fire starters for me (usually pick fire starters every time at least the first playthrough). Cyndaquil not gaining an addition type upon evolving prolly had something to do with it. Maybe one day the Johto starters might get more diversity if given the megaform treatment, but until then they're pretty "meh" to me. Meganium's my favorite out of them though.

I see where you are coming from with the "no dual type" argument with the starters, and I respect that.

I can also respect your love of Meganium. I will NOT stand for the dislike of Typhlosion.

If you saw Typhlosion as underwhelming, I have two things to say to you 1) Go back and start with Cyndaquil again and 2) Sit your ass down and listen to the truth of the wonder of Typhlosion. Once you play with Typhlosion again, and train him the right way, your opinion of him will change within a week. Here are the steps to learning to love Typhlosion:

Start with the best way to EV train, a Typhlosion with maxed out Special Attack and Special Defense, with his/her other stats as close to the max as possible, is perhaps the most overwhelmingly powerful Pokémon in any match (not counting legendaries), even against other people because Typhlosion's average Speed stat enables him to outrun most, if not all opponents. This worked for my Typhlosion with quite astonishing results against friends.

Next step: give him the most effective moveset for any Typhlosion: Flamethrower, Earthquake, Thunderpunch, Fire Blast/Sunny Day. With this moveset, he is able to take out most pokemon in one or two shots, even against another person. My Typhlosion has even one-shot his fire-starter predecessor (a level 100 Charizard with max Special Defense and Attack) in a match against one of my friends with Thunderpunch, which is no small feat.

Finally, give him Charcoal (I personally love held items that boost the power of certain attack types, and giving them to a Pokémon with that type for an extra boost along with the STAB). This coupled with Sunny Day (if you use that over Fire Blast) can put a Flamethrower on the same level as a STABed Fire Blast.

So, I hope you learned something new about the overwhelming force that is Typhlosion. Try out these steps and tell me how it goes. 😠

That is a horrible strategy...