Originally posted by Rao Kal El
While I can see your line of reasoning. I don't think Thanos has faced right out speedsters with super strength, I mean yes hulk has some degree of Super speed and yes his reflexes are above normal, but nothing compared to the reflexes someone like Ultraman should have. Galactus Heralds while fast in raw speed they lack the speed reflexes and by that I mean moving their hands at super speed or doing complex task at super speed and often they are not displayed like that.Let use for example someone who has moved at with super speed around Thanos and it has basically danced around him. That is what I am seeing in a fight like this.
Lets be honest, characters that can move at super speed get tagged in comics, not because the other characters have super speed reflexes too, but because the story requires them to be tagged by a slower opponent, other wise there is no point to the fight.
And the same thing I think about Ultraman I stated my feeling towards Hyperion, that his speed was being nerfed down vs Thanos or his henchman.
Hyperion had the power to blitz any of those characters in the comic, why does he forgets he has that power? Why is not displayed?
If Hyperion had out right blitzed Thanos and Thanos had showed the reflexes to catch up and counter his blitz, then yes, I will agree Thanos will beat the crap out of Ultraman, but somehow someway characters with super speed and super strength often forget they have this type of power and that they can use them in combination with their other powers, don't you agree?
So basically you'd rather just downplay Thanos' speed feats, use some random speed Ultraman has never shown, compare the people who have used speed against Thanos to... Ultraman and what sort of speed he should have, and other random shit that's also utterly retarded?
Yes, Hyperion is the deciding factor to show Thanos can deal with speed. Nothing else matters. And because he didn't blitz Thanos, Ultraman blitzes Thanos?
But yes, ignore Thanos' reactions. Ignore his shields. He can't hit Ultraman anymore.
Now you're left with a guy who's only been KO'ed 3 times in comics who's stayed awake from attacks from a Cosmic Cube, Galactus, A being twice Galactus' power, Tyrant, Magus with the IG, Odin, and others.
So combining this all into a scenario that is COMPLETELY LIKELY we have something like this:
Ultraman immediately blitzes Thanos. Naturally he starts flailing his arms around while missing omniblasts, not using shields, and just winging punches. Thanos is like "Oh dawgy, I've reacted to people who made stars streak in the blitz, people going lightspeed in seconds, someone who's blitzed the guy going lightspeed in seconds, and a raging Hulk... But all that is for naught because this guy is also super strong, and even though those others were super strong, they weren't quite as strong. I can fire four different blasts at the same time and even omni blasts, but he's so quick and strong! Hell I can even tp blast people, but I'll never land something like that! This guy really knows how to hit me!
Wait, didn't my first appearance to Earth heroes have me fire a blast capable of destroying a planet? Well that would never hit someone with this super speed and super strength repertoire. And I'm knocked out."
How could I have been in so much denial?
I forgot to mention it seems we compare Runner with the ****ing Space Gem to Ultraman. Because he danced around Thanos.
Thanos' speed feats don't count because speedsters get tagged. He's also in Marvel so that's why we shouldn't use his feats too. What's next, he wears armor so any time he gets hit in the face it's pis that he survived? What does him being purple allow us to ignore while we're at it?