Originally posted by KostabotI joined in 05, so if there was one here, it disappeared before then.
I may be wrong, but I think there was a fitness sub forum on here waaaay back. like 03 , 04, maybe 05... it may have been another forum, but KMC was my main haunt. I don't think it got much traffic though, Even when the website was busy.
Yeah, it's amazing what muscular development will do for a person, not just physically, but mentally, socially.
No doubt, I will keep exercising until I die.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
High School. The Golden Age of Jocks, before most of them end up getting menial jobs while a few end up making millions playing games professionally.
just throwing it out there, modern job market ain't too kind to us brainy types
I stack boxes in a warehouse part time right now...
I'd actually rather do that. Never been happy with a job that required brain activity over physical activity on my part. Physical exhaustion is usually a sign of good work. Brain fried mode is a sign of "my job just destroyed my reasoning for the day so now I can't enjoy anything deeper than Two and a Half Men." Working on an assembly line or in a warehouse also gave me tons of time to think as I worked about things I was genuinely interested in, and creativity boomed. The opposite end of the spectrum, working 10+ hours a day at a call center or computer lab or such generally left me irritable and unable to focus.
Originally posted by Kostabot
I've been considering dropping my hours at work a little bit and getting a PT cert so that I can make some money from my hobby, and have it become a bigger part of my everyday life.
If you're good at it and find a nice gym to take you in, you can make quite a bit of money off of PT. I did it for about 6 months almost a decade ago. Had I stuck with it, I would have made about $70k in my second year (gotta build up that clientele, first).
That may not seem like much if you're living in an expensive city but I lived in Tulsa. That was a lot of money for a 20 year old.
Originally posted by Kostabot
It was interesting seeing people start treating me differently in my final year of high school. Part of this was because I was now fitter, and more capable of standing up for myself physically, and having been a pudgy 4 eyed kid, this came as a welcome change. Some of the change in peoples attitude I also attributed to the fact that by 12th grade, most of the assholes had dropped out, and the other kids weren't following their lead. I actually ended up becoming friends with a lot of guys that bullied me earlier on. Also being a generally friendly, and non-confrontational person, I, much like you, ended p being able to fit in to most groups, and got along with almost everyone.
That reminds me. I was wanting to be a guest speaker at middle schools and high schools to encourage kids to eat well and exercise. I would use examples like yours.
Originally posted by Kostabot
Being bullied a bit may have done me some good by motivating me to start looking after myself so that I wasn't as much of a target. I also think it helped make me the totally non-aggressive person that I am. Why hurt others? I knew what it felt like to be on the receiving end, so I tried to never subject anyone to it either. 🙂
I would note that your situation is probably the exception. Often times, the bullying just makes things worse for those kids. Many commit suicide and that's just sad.
Originally posted by tsilamini
just throwing it out there, modern job market ain't too kind to us brainy typesI stack boxes in a warehouse part time right now...
Gotta be aggressive and assertive without coming off as a douche (better to be considered an ******* than a douche), man.
But, I try to hire people that are brainy types that lack the ability to be assertive. I like smart, honest, and hard working people. I don't care if they lack the ability to be dominant enough to get their idea pushed forward: I'll do that for you, openly give you credit, and give you a nice raise when people see our project is running in the black. 😄
Originally posted by dadudemon
If you're good at it and find a nice gym to take you in, you can make quite a bit of money off of PT. I did it for about 6 months almost a decade ago. Had I stuck with it, I would have made about $70k in my second year (gotta build up that clientele, first).
I know I'd be good. I have a good eye for detain, and a good awareness of lifting biomechanics on an individualised level, which is something a lot of PTs lack. The money would also be awesome. its $80 an hour here for your average PT. I could match my current income on half the hours. A friend of mine clears 100K p.a. I love my job though, so I'd never want to quit it all together. I invested too much time and effort getting qualified, and It's too rewarding on a personal level for me to essentially down-skill for the sake of better pay. Some people may think thats silly, but I like the fact that I'm forced to think and act in life and death situations almost on a daily basis.
Its something I will likely do before I do any further study in my current career. Get my PT dip, cut my hours at work, then maybe apply to enroll in post grad medicine or something.
Originally posted by dadudemon
That may not seem like much if you're living in an expensive city but I lived in Tulsa. That was a lot of money for a 20 year old.
Thats considered high end average income here too, and year for a 20yr old that is some decent coin. I make about that now, but with the aid of penalty rates. My flat rate salary isnt that good as I'm only 2 years out of uni.
Originally posted by dadudemon
That reminds me. I was wanting to be a guest speaker at middle schools and high schools to encourage kids to eat well and exercise. I would use examples like yours.
My fiance gets invited yearly to teach at the Gifted and Talented school which gets held here once a year for a week. It takes the highest school achievers in the state and gives them a week together to do some fun extracurricular study.
Shes a Remedial Therapist and studied Chinese Medicine, so her classes up until this year were largely to do with that, but this year she chose to speak about self awareness, self esteem and confidence. The organizers loved it so much they want her to do some casual lectures on the topic to university students in the state.
If you're a good public speaker, and can inspire people, then you should definitely do it. I like the idea of it, but I'm not as good at public speaking as her. I prefer one on one interaction.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I would note that your situation is probably the exception. Often times, the bullying just makes things worse for those kids. Many commit suicide and that's just sad.
Yeah I had to develop a thick skin pretty quickly when my family moved from Russia to a small town in the US, and I was immediately an easy target for bullies. Didnt speak English (at first), and was a bit different culturally (something these small town folk hadn't encountered much in the past). @ years later we moved to Australia and I was once again the odd one out. American accent, another cultural shock, and I was now overweight. The weight I piled on in the US. New food I had never tried before (like cereal LOL) was hard to resist.
I learned pretty early on that it was either stiffen up my upper lip and let it toughen me up a bit, or succumb to hating myself and becoming depressed. My parents are my blessing too. My mum kept my chin up a lot, and dad just taught me not to take poeple's crap. The part about not taking their crap, but not reciprocating with crap either was something I think I adapted myself later in life.
Originally posted by dadudemon
But, I try to hire people that are brainy types that lack the ability to be assertive. I like smart, honest, and hard working people. I don't care if they lack the ability to be dominant enough to get their idea pushed forward: I'll do that for you, openly give you credit, and give you a nice raise when people see our project is running in the black. 😄
What do you do, if you don't mind me asking? 🙂
Originally posted by Mindship
Yeah, it's amazing what muscular development will do for a person, not just physically, but mentally, socially.
Ooozing with joyish, assertive, courageous, and outgoing behaviors like confronting bullies and what not is what muscular development will do.
Here's what the media and internet magicians don't want you to know about:
|cholecystokinin| |leptin| |acetycholine| |***endorphins| |dopamine|
Above is a list of 5 neurotransmitters associated with aesthetics in personality, physicality, and appearance.
There are drugs that increase the bodies secretion of these hormones tenfold, take them.
Limit yourself to a vegan diet:
Eat perfectly cut proteins, walnuts and almonds, simple whole grains, a multi-colored variety of fruits and veggies the first 8 hours of your day and stop *record scratch* eating until your next day begins.
Get 12 hours of sleep and +++ resistance:
Train aesthetic muscle groups:
Obliques, the superficial abdominal section, superficial lower back, upper back, pecs, |superficial back|, top, rear, and front deltoids, lats, thick triceps, swollen biceps, and especially the gluteous maximus (popping out over thick hamstrings popping out themselves over toned calves popping themselves).
[list]***The body will not aesthetically respond well to compound lifts or to maximal strength training, it will aesthetically respond best to thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of low bearing repetitions.
*******Most importantly, make sure the lifts don't stress the back, for the non-visible lower back muscles in particular to develop unnatural definition -
- you need to do dead lifts.
The muscles should learn to grow to a straightened back, rows and side to side standing dips with plates well help stabilize whilst building up the obliques. [/list]
The trick is to swell up the abs, obliques, and lower back specifically so as to compress the mid section into a compact and over-developed superficial fascia!
Originally posted by Kostabot
I know I'd be good. I have a good eye for detain, and a good awareness of lifting biomechanics on an individualised level, which is something a lot of PTs lack. The money would also be awesome. its $80 an hour here for your average PT. I could match my current income on half the hours. A friend of mine clears 100K p.a. I love my job though, so I'd never want to quit it all together. I invested too much time and effort getting qualified, and It's too rewarding on a personal level for me to essentially down-skill for the sake of better pay. Some people may think thats silly, but I like the fact that I'm forced to think and act in life and death situations almost on a daily basis.Its something I will likely do before I do any further study in my current career. Get my PT dip, cut my hours at work, then maybe apply to enroll in post grad medicine or something.
We might be talking about 2 different things.
For me, PT = Personal Trainer. It sounds like you're talking about Physical Therapist. All the Physical Therapists I know make bank (I suspect it is due to being in the medical field doing real and valuable medical work, but without nearly the liability that doctors and some types of nurses have). And almost all the women who do it are attractive. 🙂
Originally posted by Kostabot
Thats considered high end average income here too, and year for a 20yr old that is some decent coin. I make about that now, but with the aid of penalty rates. My flat rate salary isnt that good as I'm only 2 years out of uni.
And the student loans. Mother fuggin' student loans.
Originally posted by Kostabot
My fiance gets invited yearly to teach at the Gifted and Talented school which gets held here once a year for a week. It takes the highest school achievers in the state and gives them a week together to do some fun extracurricular study.Shes a Remedial Therapist and studied Chinese Medicine, so her classes up until this year were largely to do with that, but this year she chose to speak about self awareness, self esteem and confidence. The organizers loved it so much they want her to do some casual lectures on the topic to university students in the state.
If you're a good public speaker, and can inspire people, then you should definitely do it. I like the idea of it, but I'm not as good at public speaking as her. I prefer one on one interaction.
I love public speaking. No problems there. Remember when you were a kid and you had that one teacher that had a profoundly positive influence on you? I want to do that for someone. If only 1 kid's life is changed for the better out of the tens of thousands I will get to speak to, that's worth it to me.
What are some of the things your fiance has said about her more casual/inspirational lectures? What do those lectures cover? What are some of the reactions or feedback she has gotten from the students?
I know that's a lot of questions but I'm very curious about that topic for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by Kostabot
What do you do, if you don't mind me asking? 🙂
IT Manager. More specifically, an ITIL expert.
Originally posted by Oneness
Ooozing with joyish, assertive, courageous, and outgoing behaviors like confronting bullies and what not is what muscular development will do.[list]***The body will not aesthetically respond well to compound lifts or to maximal strength training, it will aesthetically respond best to thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of low bearing repetitions.
While isolation training has its place, I never lifted for looks, always for strength, and here, compound lifts are the way to go. You get the most bang for your buck in the shortest time; in short, it's how your body was made to operate, as a whole unit, and so has immediate, real-world applicability. Also, muscles built for strength (ie, emphasizing myofibrillar hypertrophy) last longer if for some reason you have to stop working out (eg, injury), than muscles enlarged through sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (what bodybuilders tend to emphasize, though the top-tier guys will go for both).
Ultimately, you lift for what you want. My approach has always been: what's the least I need to do to get what I want, and personally, I'd rather be stronger than I look (rather than the opposite), because it was always fun as hell surprising the crap out of the bigger, bulkier, softer dudes (and often outlifting them, especially in bench and military presses) when it came time to lay the cards on the table.
These days, I also work on speed (fast-twitch fiber development) with occasional speedbag work, and also power, with the heavybag. It's not enough, imho, just to "be strong." That can suffice in high school, but you should be able to use your strength effectively in the real world.
Originally posted by MindshipYou need steroids before bodybuilding starts inhibiting your range of motion and honestly, isolation is better for range of motion if your metabolism is turbochraged from the sleep, intermittent fasting, and longer and more stable resistance given to your CNS - albeit less extreme - that lack of body fat and linear physique (wiry frame) goes further when training for certain sports than does the ability to clean and jerk a lot of weight. Maximal strength or power is good for football and strongman sure. As long as your metabolism is in check, isolation and intensity both have there advantages - isolation is actually better for MMA. Endurance strength.
While isolation training has its place, I never lifted for looks, always for strength, and here, compound lifts are the way to go. You get the most bang for your buck in the shortest time; in short, it's how your body was made to operate, as a whole unit, and so has immediate, real-world applicability. Also, muscles built for strength (ie, emphasizing myofibrillar hypertrophy) last longer if for some reason you have to stop working out (eg, injury), than muscles enlarged through sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (what bodybuilders tend to emphasize, though the top-tier guys will go for both).Ultimately, you lift for what you want. My approach has always been: what's the least I need to do to get what I want, and personally, I'd rather be stronger than I look (rather than the opposite), because it was always fun as hell surprising the crap out of the bigger, bulkier, softer dudes (and often outlifting them, especially in bench and military presses) when it came time to lay the cards on the table.
These days, I also work on speed (fast-twitch fiber development) with occasional speedbag work, and also power, with the heavybag. It's not enough, imho, just to "be strong." That can suffice in high school, but you should be able to use your strength effectively in the real world.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
High school. The athletic group of mostly alpha-males who dominated in sports, but stereotypically are thought to lack scholarly interests and proficiency.
They're also thought to be douchebags.
The point of the OP was to successfully assert that being a good person makes you an "alpha".
Guess that thought never crossed anyone's mind when watching that video.
Oh well, I knew that no one's subjective experience will be the same, I just thought there'd be some similar thoughts crossing someone's head.
My faith in humanity remains non-existent, my faith in technology and merging with it in my lifetime remains religious, there's no changing that of course.