The Builders vs The Entire Earth Pantheon
The Builders, Engineers, Alephs etc (as seen throughout Infinity).
VS
The Earth Pantheon that faced The Celestials.
Now that we know that The Builders are basically insignificant, in the grand, grand scheme of things. How would they do against the pantheon that The Celestials humbled?
Originally posted by janus77
I don't know about solo-ing, we're talking the whole host of Builders, Engineers, Alephs, Ex Nihilos etc.
Well, there's only one Aleph.
But I don't recall anything the Bulders and co. ever did that would even definitively hurt Odin. He's just so far above high heralds and the like, it's not really comparable.
It's not so much what The Builders (and Co.) can do to hurt the gods, it's that there's a shit-tonne of them and they're supposedly quite ancient and advanced (moreso than Earth or any of its pantheon).
These are, supposedly, the architects of Marvel's universes, they pre-date all but Galactus (unless, they've retconned that too?)...
There must have been something in the whole silly arc that gives some indication of why they are supposedly "The Builders" of the universe?
Originally posted by janus77
It's not so much what The Builders (and Co.) can do to hurt the gods, it's that there's a shit-tonne of them and they're supposedly quite ancient and advanced (moreso than Earth or any of its pantheon).These are, supposedly, the architects of Marvel's universes, they pre-date all but Galactus (unless, they've retconned that too?)...
There must have been something in the whole silly arc that gives some indication of why they are supposedly "The Builders" of the universe?
PS a fed Galactus would end their existence with a wave of his hand.
Originally posted by janus77haha
There must have been something in the whole silly arc that gives some indication of why they are supposedly "The Builders" of the universe?
Originally posted by janus77All they were was glass canons. Sure they can destroy planets, but they can't take a hit to save their lives.
Aren't there entire squadrons of "Planet razing" Alephs? Surfer destroyed a bunch of them didn't he?
This is sad. I really was hoping somebody would be able to point to something and say - See! they're not as crap and silly as you thought, they were just misunderstood!
Wasn't there anything more about their battle with The Celestials, their God Killer (I notice our resident KMC God Killer's dropped the name quite fast!). Did that blimp full of hype float? Did they have any other tools???
Sad, sad, sad. I'm not liking the Black Swan business (though I do love her condescension towards Reed). 5000 realities? Sounds too much like DC silliness ...
It's coming time for that great big omniversal retcon punch ...
Originally posted by janus77One Builder solo'ed the Annihilation Wave via hivemind telepathy... but that's not really relevant to much considering it was only done because the Annihilation was a Hivemind.
This is sad. I really was hoping somebody would be able to point to something and say - See! they're not as crap and silly as you thought, they were just misunderstood!Wasn't there anything more about their battle with The Celestials, their God Killer (I notice our resident KMC God Killer's dropped the name quite fast!). Did that blimp full of hype float? Did they have any other tools???
Sad, sad, sad. I'm not liking the Black Swan business (though I do love her condescension towards Reed). 5000 realities? Sounds too much like DC silliness ...
It's coming time for that great big omniversal retcon punch ...
I should hope they were never stupid enough to fight the Celestials. They would have gotten scrapped by one. And the Godkiller wasn't theirs.
5000 realities out of infinity isn't that much.
Originally posted by janus77
This is sad. I really was hoping somebody would be able to point to something and say - See! they're not as crap and silly as you thought, they were just misunderstood!Wasn't there anything more about their battle with The Celestials, their God Killer (I notice our resident KMC God Killer's dropped the name quite fast!). Did that blimp full of hype float? Did they have any other tools???
Sad, sad, sad. I'm not liking the Black Swan business (though I do love her condescension towards Reed). 5000 realities? Sounds too much like DC silliness ...
It's coming time for that great big omniversal retcon punch ...
The Great Destroyer or whatever that tentacled thing was that Black Swan spoke of, looked like a re-tread of The Many Angled Ones.
It's either a huge expansion of the omniverse of a very sloppy palimpsest going on. With The Celestials replaced by The Builders, then suddenly this zoom out perspective where we learn that The Builders were as nothing to the horrors that await, the inevitable eventual death of Earth and the Universe (such a threat has never been seen before!) at the hands of the GD ...
Quite a lot of things are just happening without any reflection within the comics, it seems.
Originally posted by janus77
The Great Destroyer or whatever that tentacled thing was that Black Swan spoke of, looked like a re-tread of The Many Angled Ones.It's either a huge expansion of the omniverse of a very sloppy palimpsest going on. With The Celestials replaced by The Builders, then suddenly this zoom out perspective where we learn that The Builders were as nothing to the horrors that await, the inevitable eventual death of Earth and the Universe (such a threat has never been seen before!) at the hands of the GD ...
Quite a lot of things are just happening without any reflection within the comics, it seems.
Tagline : "Watch as the most dangerous weapon in the Universe is unleashed."
And after all that build up what did we get? A herald level character! 😆
So much fail.