All vs Gauntlet vs Superman with these weapons

Started by JakeTheBank4 pages

I personally don't think being worthy of Mjolnir gives you Thor's stats. It gives you his power of the storm and all of the associated Mjolnir tricks and whatnot, but not Thor's physical stats stacked on top of your own. To that end, Bill was probably remaking over the power of Mjonir itself.

If Bill did get Thor's stats added on top of his, that would likewise mean he was about twice as strong as him with Mjolnir in his possession. And considering Stormbreaker was made to be equal to Mjolnir in terms of function and power, it would likewise mean Bill is 2x more powerful/stronger than Thor is...which we know is anything but true.

Originally posted by Supra
bad ass thank you!

How much does that hammer actually weigh?

The hammer itself weighs about as much as a man made hammer of that size and shape would weigh (though probably multiplied by three due to Asgardian matter being three times as dense as Earth's).

The hammer's "weight" comes from magic. I know a lot of people apply pseudo-science to Mjolnir due to the movie and a few comics stating it was forged in the heart of a dying star and tacking a number onto it, but Mjolnir doesn't weight anything crazy like x amount of tons. If it did, Thor wouldn't be able to put on a table or rest it on the ground or tables without it cracking the surface or creating a massive crater.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I personally don't think being worthy of Mjolnir gives you Thor's stats. It gives you his power of the storm and all of the associated Mjolnir tricks and whatnot, but not Thor's physical stats stacked on top of your own. To that end, Bill was probably remaking over the power of Mjonir itself.

If Bill did get Thor's stats added on top of his, that would likewise mean he was about twice as strong as him with Mjolnir in his possession. And considering Stormbreaker was made to be equal to Mjolnir in terms of function and power, it would likewise mean Bill is 2x more powerful/stronger than Thor is...which we know is anything but true.

That is possible.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you posted a character statement that has no feats to back it up.

At least I have that statement to prove it. What do you have when you said it?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Powers have never stacked, so he'd have Thor's powers but have zero exp in using them....I'd say just about any herald level character could beat him.

At least post a statement which states mjolnir replaces wearer's powers. Oh I forgot who you are. I'm calling a mod to decide it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I personally don't think being worthy of Mjolnir gives you Thor's stats. It gives you his power of the storm and all of the associated Mjolnir tricks and whatnot, but not Thor's physical stats stacked on top of your own. To that end, Bill was probably remaking over the power of Mjonir itself.

If Bill did get Thor's stats added on top of his, that would likewise mean he was about twice as strong as him with Mjolnir in his possession. And considering Stormbreaker was made to be equal to Mjolnir in terms of function and power, it would likewise mean Bill is 2x more powerful/stronger than Thor is...which we know is anything but true.


Not true at all. Stormbreaker was equal to mjolnir but it doesn't grants you the power of Thor which was enchanted by Odin. The statement is clear cut, BRB had Thor's powers stacked on his own. Odin stripped him of mjolnir and restored Thor's godly form in the next issue.

Originally posted by abhilegend
At least I have that statement to prove it. What do you have when you said it?

At least post a statement which states mjolnir replaces wearer's powers. Oh I forgot who you are. I'm calling a mod to decide it.

You have a character statement with no feats to back it up, which makes the statement worthless.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You have a character statement with no feats to back it up, which makes the statement worthless.

Because the guy in question had no fights at all and that's only proof that he had thor's powers stacked on him. Where is your proof that Thor's powers would replace Superman's powers if he had mjolnir?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the guy in question had no fights at all and that's only proof that he had thor's powers stacked on him. Where is your proof that Thor's powers would replace Superman's powers if he had mjolnir?

If he has no feats backing the statement up, then the statement is worthless.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If he has no feats backing the statement up, then the statement is worthless.

If a character has only statements and appears in one issue only, its not worthless. Regardless, where is your proof?

yall way beyond me now ill just read and learn!

A Beta Ray Bill that has the power of Thor has appeared in far more than just 1 issue.

Originally posted by Silent Master
A Beta Ray Bill that has the power of Thor has appeared in far more than just 1 issue.

Beta Ray Bill with mjolnir has only appeared in Thor 337 and 338. He gets stormbreaker in 339 which doesn't grants someone Thor's strength. That's unique to mjolnir only.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If a character has only statements and appears in one issue only, its not worthless. Regardless, where is your proof?

ok as seen in the movie the hammer can be deflected from the likes of kurse..so the hammer does not have unlimited power as some think? it can only be yeilded by a worthy holder.. but the power has limits just as thor has his upper limits as any hero does?

You're really going to try and argue that Stormbreaker doesn't grant the power of Thor?

Guys please can we get back on OP?? I really want to learn about these powers!! Why argue when we can learn?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're really going to try and argue that Stormbreaker doesn't grant the power of Thor?

Yes, I am. It is equal to mjolnir but it grants Bill return to his Karbonite form from his powered up form. Anyway, where is your proof that mjolnir replaces wearer's powers? Three pages and you haven't produced a single proof. I am not surprised though. You're snake-eyes after all.

I gave you a proof and you discarded it, now at least post a proof.

Last Son Of Krypton you got this, i tried to make a clean thread people want to argue and hate..

House of El lives forever..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, I am. It is equal to mjolnir but it grants Bill return to his Karbonite form from his powered up form. Anyway, where is your proof that mjolnir replaces wearer's powers? Three pages and you haven't produced a single proof. I am not surprised though. You're snake-eyes after all.

I gave you a proof and you discarded it, now at least post a proof.

So all the years of BRB using Thor's powers are PIS?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So all the years of BRB using Thor's powers are PIS?

Still waiting for you to admit your reading comprehension failed you on Abhi posting those scans earlier.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So all the years of BRB using Thor's powers are PIS?

He's using his own strength which is equal to thor.