Metatron – the lesser YHVH

Started by Supra4 pages

Re: Re: Metatron – the lesser YHVH

Originally posted by Astner
Actually, according to the third book of Enoch he's beneath a host of other angels, among them the princes of Merkabah, which all have the tetragrammaton at the end of their names.

The most powerful angels would be Sofriel Memith and Sofriel Mehayye.

In fact, Anaphiel was the one who punished Metatron with sixty lashes of fire.

How could the lesser YHVH, hey one only second to God be punished?

Re: Re: Re: Metatron – the lesser YHVH

Originally posted by Supra
How could the lesser YHVH, hey one only second to God be punished?

Metatron isn't second only to God, he kneels to the princes of Merkabah too.

Merkabah, Ezekiel's vision of the chariot Merkabah?

Here's the excerpt from the third book of Enoch.

I highlighted the wrong phrase, but (5) says:

"And the four great princes, when they see Tag'as, the prince great and honored with song (and) praise, at the head of all the children of heaven, they remove the crown of glory from their head and fall on their faces."

There you have it, Metatron bows face-to-the-ground to Tag'as, who's #5 on the list. Anaphiel is #15 and Sopheriel Memith and Mehayye are #24.

Ok well now I'm lost bro.. Teach/Tell me why did the angels worship each other are they not to worship Yahweh only? When the angels of the Lord came to visit the Gods chosen people they wanted to worship them or build them alters, they refused and said to not worship them.

Why are humans not supposed to worship angels but angels are supposed to bow down to other angels..

That proves my point on against my discussion with my family because they think we are less then the angels..

This proves them wrong then because if angels have to worship other angels yet humans are told by angels of The Lord not to worship them.

Then we are above the angels directly and they follow Gods orders to protect humans and his chosen at all cost..

We are above angels bro..
How does it feel???

Also, God is Power and we are his people and if you chose t o follow him he sends his angels to take charge over you and protect you from all harm.

I been in some bad situations man and it could only be this reason for which I am still alive

I am protected..

On a related not I call on the Power of Metatron and Michael the arch angel for power and I am sustained from all harm, so even I recognize the power of Angels if I consider myself above them however I call on there power thus humbling myself to recognize that I may be above them in Gods eyes..they are above me in my eyes...

I have felt Metetrons Power before upon praying and calling out his name in prayer recognizing that he exists in my world..unexplained power i felt..if you get my drift..

Originally posted by Supra
Ok well now I'm lost bro.. Teach/Tell me why did the angels worship each other are they not to worship Yahweh only? When the angels of the Lord came to visit the Gods chosen people they wanted to worship them or build them alters, they refused and said to not worship them.

Why are humans not supposed to worship angels but angels are supposed to bow down to other angels..


In the book of Enoch the higher angels bring God's word to the lesser angels, just like lesser angels bring God's word to man. So they're not worshiping the angels per se, but rather recognizing their relation to God.

I know most angels cannot even look at YHVH but I know one of them that can is metatron. Its interesting to know that most of the heavenly hosts have not even seen the face go YHVH.

Does not the word of YHVH flow through the angels an minister to them through another connection rather then having to be told by others?

Mythology is fascinating.

Seraphim and upwards can look at God.

Originally posted by Supra
Does not the word of YHVH flow through the angels an minister to them through another connection rather then having to be told by others?

Not in the book of Enoch.

Originally posted by Astner
Seraphim and upwards can look at God.

Not in the book of Enoch.

is Meta in any of the books of Enoch?

Originally posted by Supra
is Meta in any of the books of Enoch?

Yes. He bows down to Tag'as and was punished by Anaphiel with sixty whips of fire for sitting on God's throne as I told you.

How did Meta write a book about himself and have it be written on earth on the scrolls?

Originally posted by Supra
How did Meta write a book about himself and have it be written on earth on the scrolls?

Could it be because humans made it all up and wrote it on scrolls because that is all they had?

Originally posted by Supra
How did Meta write a book about himself and have it be written on earth on the scrolls?

He didn't. According to the Books of Enoch, Metatron was Enoch's guide in heaven. Enoch then wrote his doctrine based on his supposed experiences.

"Sitting next to God, Enoch was instructed in wisdom, and using his skills as a scribe, prepared three hundred and sixty-six books. When he learned everything, a most significant thing happened. God revealed to him great secrets -- some of which are even kept secret from the angels! These included the secrets of Creation, the duration of time the world will survive, and what will happen after its demise. At the end of these discussions, Enoch returned to earth for a limited time, to instruct everyone, including his sons, in all he learned. After thirty days, the angels returned him to Heaven.
And then the divine transformation took place. Additional wisdom and spiritual qualities caused Enoch's height and breadth to become equal to the height and breadth of the earth. God attached thirty-six wings to his body, and gave him three hundred and sixty-five eyes, each as bright as the sun. His body turned into celestial fire -- flesh, veins, bones, hair, all metamorphosed to glorious flame. Sparks emanated from him, and storms, whirlwind, and thunder encircled his form. The angels dressed him in magnificent garments, including a crown, and arranged his throne. A heavenly herald proclaimed that from then on his name would no longer be Enoch, but Metatron, and that all angels must obey him, as second only to God."

source..same asa OP

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/metatron.html

There's no reference to any doctrines in that article.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Mythology is fascinating.

Man, I agree. This shit is amazing.

Even if it is true/false, it is still pretty dang elaborate and awesome.

Originally posted by Astner
There's no reference to any doctrines in that article.

So people just post this shit and call it true?

Welcome to the internet Supra...

And you're the one who posted the link.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And you're the one who posted the link.

Oh look the troll is back, you came of your warning and ready to go on another bout with me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)