Originally posted by Warlord
I never said it was limitless... also it was never fully established. I bet it would be portrayed differently under different writters. anyway, Dr bluedick hasn't done anything more impressive than Surfer, and we all know how Thanos does against him
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos teleported under his own power in to the Magus dimesion in his early appearances
Originally posted by One-Punch
He also teleported Champion to Surfer with an energy blast from his finger.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So because Dr. Manhattan says he can do something, we should take his word on it? Sounds good.Silver Surfer can do virtually everything Manhattan can and then some based on actual feats and he gets roflstomped by Thanos.
Of course we should unless since it falls under the suspension of disbelief and it is part of the writer's intentions. There is no good reason why we shouldn't believe Dr. Manhattan. It's very plausible and goes with the story.
SS can't reform from having all his atoms dispersed. SS can't teleport objects and himself. SS doesn't use intangibility in battle unless it is out of character. Otherwise, Thanos wouldn't be able to beat him.
Your logic suggests that since Thanos can beat SS he can beat Dr.
But you are not realizing that Dr. can't be beat by physical means (he can reform, duplicate, grow, etc.). SS can be koed and kill and not be able to reform.
Originally posted by h1a8
Of course we should unless since it falls under the suspension of disbelief and it is part of the writer's intentions. There is no good reason why we shouldn't believe Dr. Manhattan. It's very plausible and goes with the story.SS can't reform from having all his atoms dispersed. SS can't teleport objects and himself. SS doesn't use intangibility in battle unless it is out of character. Otherwise, Thanos wouldn't be able to beat him.
Your logic suggests that since Thanos can beat SS he can beat Dr.
But you are not realizing that Dr. can't be beat by physical means (he can reform, duplicate, grow, etc.). SS can be koed and kill and not be able to reform.
So, we should totally believe everything Manhattan says about himself as the gospel because of "writer intent"? Okay. I'll apply this to all characters.
Manhattan did those things in a very "real world" environment. He has no experience dealing with actual superhuman threats, let alone on the scale of Thanos. Him reforming from Ozy's pathetic tech =/= him being able to stand getting mindraped by Thanos or enduring Thanos' massive energy projection.
Surfer has feats that shit on Manhattan across the board. Even if Manhattan is more "immortal" than Norrin is (extremely debatable), offensively, he doesn't even compare. You have to apply a no limits fallacy or just say "writer intent" to argue for Manhattan and just outright ignore Thanos' feats.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankwe don't use writers intent when it goes against established history or the majority of other feats. That's when we say bad writing.
So, we should totally believe everything Manhattan says about himself as the gospel because of "writer intent"? Okay. I'll apply this to all characters.Manhattan did those things in a very "real world" environment. He has no experience dealing with actual superhuman threats, let alone on the scale of Thanos. Him reforming from Ozy's pathetic tech =/= him being able to stand getting mindraped by Thanos or enduring Thanos' massive energy projection.
Surfer has feats that shit on Manhattan across the board. Even if Manhattan is more "immortal" than Norrin is (extremely debatable), offensively, he doesn't even compare. You have to apply a no limits fallacy or just say "writer intent" to argue for Manhattan and just outright ignore Thanos' feats.
You can't use a no limits fallacy in the negative direction either. Just because someone doesn't have feats doesn't mean they can't do something. Otherwise LT would be physically weak as shit. At worst we just say that we don't know. When feats arent available we must dig deeper or leave the debate as inconclusive.
Dr. Manhattan can reform, duplicate, grow, etc. This alone proves he can't lose in a physical battle.
Notice how I never ruled out mind rape. I definitely thought of it as you see the careful chosen words of my previous post. You missed my slickness. So if Thanos tries it then he could win. Without it Thanos could lose or stalemate. IMO, I believe Dr. Could separate Thanos using some combination of matter manipulation and teleportation.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I know. He still couldn't get out of the black hole untill that ship came./shrug
He teleported numerous times without tech and with no limit applied or shown as far as range goes... It was probably more a matter of the ship being near and having transportation. What good does it do to teleport to a planet with no ship or place to go from there. That seems more logical than.. he teleportation has a close range limit.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIt was retcon that Thanos was always using tech to teleport since it is very unpleasant for him to do.
He teleported numerous times without tech and with no limit applied or shown as far as range goes... It was probably more a matter of the ship being near and having transportation. What good does it do to teleport to a planet with no ship or place to go from there. That seems more logical than.. he teleportation has a close range limit.
Originally posted by h1a8it was never retconed at all, for actually prove something you say
It was retcon that Thanos was always using tech to teleport since it is very unpleasant for him to do.
You don't see Thanos teleporting nowadays anyway. Writer's didnt yet give him his tech to do it I guess.
See H1 is full of sh** as usual, claiming recton that never happen. Thanos is eternal by which he can teleport under his own power or use tech, it's been well establish that Eternals don't like to teleport for it is unpleasant for them but they can do it. Thanos would thrash the sh** out of Dr Manhatten with the greatest if ease