Exar Kun & Uliq-Qel Droma vs Darth Bane & Darth Zannah

Started by Stealth Moose2 pages
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Depends. On the Invisible Hand his blasts are significantly less dangerous than on Ambria because of the lack of dark side energies to fuel them with. Bane, on the other hand, possesses very powerful lightning which Kun obviously could evade, but it still might trouble him. Both have displayed Drain, but there were circumstances to this; Kun did it when surrounded by the dark energies coming from the Massassi temple, while Bane amplified his own power with the help of a Andeddu's temple. Bane is more powerful telekinetically, though. His raw power is greater than anything Kun has ever shown, and if he gets the opportunity to unleash a Force wave, then it could potentially prove fatal for Kun. On Ambria, Kun would likely win due to the immense power that the amulets have shown when enhanced by nexus powers.

I think you're giving far too much credit to the nexus with regards to Kun's amulet blasts. I already argued with scans that the blasts concentrate Kun's own rage and manifest as the blasts. At no point are they indicated as drawing on the nexus.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I think you're giving far too much credit to the nexus with regards to Kun's amulet blasts. I already argued with scans that the blasts concentrate Kun's own rage and manifest as the blasts. At no point are they indicated as drawing on the nexus.

I, Jedi says that the temples helped him focus its power.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I, Jedi says that the temples helped him focus its power.

Kun doesn't use amulet blasts in I, Jedi, and at the time he is dead, needing its focusing powers to retain shape and affect reality. The idea that his wraith-like spirit is using the amulets is laughable.

He said that the temples were designed to help him focus the power.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Kun doesn't use amulet blasts in I, Jedi, and at the time he is dead, needing its focusing powers to retain shape and affect reality. The idea that his wraith-like spirit is using the amulets is laughable.

Dude, learn to read. Kun's amulet blasts predate the building of his temples and the later absorption of the massassi race into those temples to keep Kun alive through the Jedi bombardment.

I don't even understand what you're saying. English isn't my first language.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Kun doesn't use amulet blasts in I, Jedi, and at the time he is dead, needing its focusing powers to retain shape and affect reality. The idea that his wraith-like spirit is using the amulets is laughable.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Dude, learn to read. Kun's amulet blasts predate the building of his temples and the later absorption of the massassi race into those temples to keep Kun alive through the Jedi bombardment.

None of that is rocket science. It just strikes me that you don't know what you're talking about, since you keep arguing the use of temples which didn't exist when Kun first used his amulet.

1. Kun, when alive, uses amulet blasts upon gaining the amulet. The blasts increase in power exponentially, and nothing is mentioned about temples, nexi, or anything.

2. Within the next half year after this, Kun has thousands of Massassi build him hundreds of temples to focus Dark Side energy. He then kills all of them and absorbs their life energy into a ritual to live forever, but the Wall of Light emitted from the Jedi Order in orbit of Yavin IV prevents this. Instead, he is effectively shackled to the planet and others are deaf to his presence.

3. By the time of I, Jedi, Kun is a dead spirit, trapped in limbo beneath Yavin IV''s surface, in one of his temples, and uses that residual energy along with Kyp and others to fuel his weaker powers. At this point, he explicitly points out that he needs the temples to maintain form and affect things. The amulets are not in use because he has no physical body. To the best of my knowledge, they are not even used in the storyline.

Yavin 4, it turned out, had been the seat of power of a formidable Dark Lord of the Sith, a fallen Jedi known as Exar Kun. He had been seduced to the dark side when he studied the ways of the Sith and incorporated their magics into his manipulation of the Force. He had come to Yavin 4 and had enslaved the Massassi people. He used them to create all the temples on the world to help focus his power.

Exar Kun's amulet feats come from before he built those temples.

What are the comics where he's in called?

Tales of the Jedi.

You think amulets would have any effect on Zannah's tendrils?

Possibly. Kun used it to kill a Sith ghost at one point.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Yavin 4, it turned out, had been the seat of power of a formidable Dark Lord of the Sith, a fallen Jedi known as Exar Kun. He had been seduced to the dark side when he studied the ways of the Sith and incorporated their magics into his manipulation of the Force. He had come to Yavin 4 and had enslaved the Massassi people. He used them to create all the temples on the world to help focus his power.

This reads like copy/paste. You should find the original comics. There's a Russian website somewhere which hosts them all. They're not terribly great quality reads, but Nomi, Kun and Uliq are interesting.

Ulic.*

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
This reads like copy/paste. You should find the original comics. There's a Russian website somewhere which hosts them all. They're not terribly great quality reads, but Nomi, Kun and Uliq are interesting.

It's from the book.