Batman takes this imo. All the specific profiling of "types of intelligence" just murk things up if you ask me. He's a "I find out whatever tf I need to in order to overcome any circumstance" type of intelligent . I mean really who in comics pulls out a trump card(plot device) against anyone and everyone on such a regular basis?.....I'll wait.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Actually it's been noted several times in this thread that Panther does that to Doom....
Usually with extreme difficulty and as Doomwar showed us, at considerable cost to himself and his kingdom. Panther doesn't routinely outsmart Doom, though. Even the guy with the best track record against Doom - Reed Richards - winds up getting out smarted by him on some level fairly regularly and is constantly put to the test when facing him.
Ultimately a moot point, though, as Doom's plot device shenanigans against the rest of the Marvel Universe are superior to Batman's against the DCU.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
You have scan or issue #? That would be great because I know for a fact Panther himself stated he was the 8th on Marvel earth.
Originally posted by KidStranglehold
Yeah in HIS universe and please prove that Batman is the second smartest person on DC Earth, when there are many people that have more raw intelligence than him. Those people including Lex.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I was hoping for a scan saying this. I recall Terrific being 3rd though.
Originally posted by Cogito
It was stated that Mr. Terrific is the 3rd smartest person in the DCnU. When was it stated who the top 2 were?
Terrific's been called that quite a few times, usually in bios or in random JSA issues.
Batman being #2 smartest man on the planet, I can't honestly recall. World's Greatest Detective, most dangerous man on Earth, one of the greatest tacticians on the planet, sure. But second smartest guy? Idk. I really don't see him being smarter than Palmer, Caulder, Humanite, Sivana, T.O Morrow, etc. Cunning =/= raw intelligence (though Batman does have both).
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Terrific's been called that quite a few times, usually in bios or in random JSA issues.Batman being #2 smartest man on the planet, I can't honestly recall. World's Greatest Detective, most dangerous man on Earth, one of the greatest tacticians on the planet, sure. But second smartest guy? Idk. I really don't see him being smarter than Palmer, Caulder, Humanite, Sivana, T.O Morrow, etc. Cunning =/= raw intelligence (though Batman does have both).
The Key, in order to avoid capture and exile in another planet at the hands of a Squad led by Amanda Waller, leads some of his fellow supervillains to surrender to the Justice League, convinced he would be able to free himself and the rest once the JLA solve their problem for them. Too bad Bats has studied him, so Key finds himself in a prison he is unable to escape from (at least for now) (Justice League of America v2 #18)Trying to find out how to take out Superman, Bats figures out what red sun radiation truly does to him and designs a projector of said energy, as noted by Supes himself (Superman #667)
Built a special stealth suit designed to keep him completely undetected from Superman (as one of his contingency plans before they truly knew each other) who's unable to sense or see Batman when put to the test with a full Electromagnetic Spectrum scan. We also learn it can cloak itself from anything attempting to detect it according to Bruce (Superman Unchained #2 & Epilogue Backup Tale)
With Superman's help, Batman comes up with a way to stop Konvikt (alien monster able to single handedly beat the JLA and one-punch KO Superman), namely a weapon designed to put the monster to sleep through a special gas. Said gas works, as the monster finds out when Wonder Woman prevents him from holding his breath (Trinity #5)
Another teleporter feat
Had barriers, disrupters, and even supernatural barricades setup to prevent all teleporters from entering into his Batcave/home (Batman #691)
In regards to figuring out other peoples' tech and screwing with it or using it...
Bats reveals he studied and reverse-enginered the tech of every suit-enhanced villain in the JLA database, meanwhile he uses that knowledge to quickly render harmless Baron Blitzkrieg, who gets promptly taken out by Nightwing (Batman: The Widening Gyre #01)
After beating an army of Lex's robo-soldiers last issue, Batman uses one of them he re-programmed to sneak in the base "Luthor" was in, while causing a temporary black-out. Later he has that same robot save him from one of his fellows and cause the self-destruction of all the others, thus ruining Luthor's plan to seize control of the USA (albeit the Lex Luthor in the military base is revealed to be a mind-controlled robotic sosia, thus allowing the real Lex to escape justice) (Batman Confidential #6)
Outsmarts Darkseid with a very good bluff while engaging him in combat using Big Barda's mother box combined with Apokolips battle armor to help shield himself from Darkseid's powerful attacks (Superman Batman #12)
In the previous issue, the new version of the Outsiders (whose leader is Batman) captured an OMAC. Bats anticipates the arrival of part of the League to retrieve the OMAC, and the "awakening" of the latter to cause trouble, and is ready to manipulate things & lead Metamorpho & co to solve both problems. So, the OMAC unit is stopped by the Outsiders (wheras the Leaguers failed), the JLA is left with a dead shell, Geoforce is fine with being transferred from the Justice League to Batman's Outsiders, and an OMAC remains with Batman for further study. (NOTE: He is technically responsible for the creation of the OMAC's to begin with)
Here he is figuring something out that the Atom could not
A group of JLAers formed by Atom, Batman, Black Canary, Elongated Man, Green Arrow and Hawkman has to face the Calculator (i.e. the same super-villain who will later appear in Identity Crisis), who has already given a tough fight to any of them thanks to his ability to produce out of thin air counters to their abilities & gadgets. Each time he was defeated, he managed to press a special button , just before being taken out. Because of this, he is not only able to prove to the Leaguers that he can't anymore be beaten by any of them, but also shows them, by taking all of them out when they launch a combined attack, that he is too much for them even if they team-work.
Nonetheless, Bats later manages to defeat Calculator on his own thanks to a brilliant plan that showcases his great forward thinking and is implemented perfectly by the Dark Knight, turning his opponent's own ability against him
http://batmanfeats.blogspot.kr/p/special-prep-time.html
Makes sure that a KOed Silver Banshee stays out of the fight by butting on her hypersonics effective even on paranormals and modifying it on the spot to drive her scream back at her (Superman Batman #3)Making more stuff
Quickly defeats Ferak one of Poison Ivy's powerful plant creatures with chemicals meant to take it out saving Young Justice in the process (Young Justice No Man's Land Special)
Uses a high tech device he built that's able to prevent his mind from being invaded by Martian telepathy (JLA Classified #45)
Robin neutralizes Bombshell's powers by using advanced tech created by Batman to defeat Major Force (Teen Titans vol 3 #64)
An in-depth look at Batman's protocols & weaponry he created to defeat the Justice League should they ever go rogue (JLA Secret Files #3)
Has a hidden area (or secret batcave) inside his Batcave that has his secret plans written down & drawn up plus special weaponry/equipment to defeat his Justice League teammates should they go rogue
Batman having already built a giant high tech robot battles the giant Clayface and evenutally manages to deduce and exploit his weakness to defeat him then restores Clayface to his original state
Another specialized suit
Dons a modified red version of his costume with a specialized weapon and chemical he created to break Poison Ivy's mind control over Clayface (Detective Comics v2 #15)
And another
Uses battle armor he made for war situations to fight 9 Talons all at once within the batcave although he's overpowered due to being too weakened beforehand on top of the Talons being super humanly strong (as we see them pentrating his battle armor with their weapons). We also see him using his robotic T-Rex dinosaur in his batcave to crush several Talons (Batman v2 #9)
And another
Batman & Robin v2 #12
- While fighting a large power armored super villain known as Terminus he resorts to using his own unique augmented power armor suit that he keeps in his batomobile and holds his own fighting against Terminus who ends up running out of power unable to continue their battle
And another
With Superman powerless at the time, Bruce stands in for him in Metropolis by apparently creating a body of armor that resembles Superman in appearance. It also proves strong enough to allow Bruce to quickly defeat Metallo (Superman Batman Annual #2)
... There were 1-2 more in addition to these.
Messing with advanced tech again
Having studied his advanced high tech helmet beforehand, he's able to defeat Prometheus by sending a virus into his helmet that erases all the copied physical programming & his own physical ability completely and replaces them with the physical ability of a very well known disabled man leaving Prometheus totally helpless (JLA #38)
Inside his own alien robot he created, Bats uses it to avoid detection from a giant alien and sentient starship and to "blind" it (JLA Classified Cold Steel #2)
http://batmanfeats.blogspot.kr/p/standardadvanced-prep-time.html
Originally posted by abhilegend
He's outsmarted both Atom and Lex several times though.http://batmanfeats.blogspot.kr/p/special-prep-time.html
http://batmanfeats.blogspot.kr/p/standardadvanced-prep-time.html
Not disputing that. The likes of Banner, T'Chala, and Stark have outsmarted Doom (and Richards) from time to time, but neither of them would be ranked smarter than either of them. To that end, I don't think Batman is smarter than Ray Palmer and certainly not Luthor. More cunning and manipulative, sure, but that's something else entirely.