Dr Manhattan vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
"Everyone else" has actual feats of them forcibly teleporting powerful characters away against their will, some of those characters being able to resist energy manipulation. Manhattan teleported himself and a human with no energy resistance feats at all. Cool, but that's a far cry from doing that to Doomsday, who is likely to just thrash Manhattan for even trying.

Ok but DM can control his powers in and out of phasing into intangibility..He can exist in the world without actually existing..How is DD gonna trash him..

If he cant actually touch him, no damage is being dealt.

Doomsday adapted to that. And tore the Radiant apart.

Manhattan's curious detachment as he attempts to make sense of this new life form gets him killed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doomsday adapted to that. And tore the Radiant apart.

Manhattan's curious detachment as he attempts to make sense of this new life form gets him killed.

Except Manhattan cannot die fro anything DD has available..He is unharmed by physical attacks..

BFR Wins by default

Yah, DM wins this solidly by porting him away.

Just wanted to point out, the Radiant was unaffected by physical attacks until Doomy evolved that weird black energy aura. He can evolve a tachykn field attack and beat DM.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, DM wins this solidly by porting him away.

Just wanted to point out, the Radiant was unaffected by physical attacks until Doomy evolved that weird black energy aura. He can evolve a tachykn field attack and beat DM.

Originally posted by Supra
Except Manhattan cannot die fro anything DD has available..He is unharmed by physical attacks..

Ask the Radiant and Waverider how that went for them.

Originally posted by Uriel005
tachyon fields just blocked his visions of the future it doesn't actually hurt him. Also IMO Doomsday would eventually kill Manhattan if a fight were to drag out.

True. And agreed.

DM would simply bfr him if atomizing him don't work. Easy win for DM.

Originally posted by Cogito
Ask the Radiant and Waverider how that went for them.

Man they are not even on the same level ans DM

Quit trying to de power the good doctor..

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's debatable he could even forcibly teleport Doomsday to begin with, tbh.

It was only when 'rider attempted to use his energies against DD a second time that we saw he'd adapted beyond them:
http://imgur.com/Nu18vxW
http://imgur.com/HhXcRQL

That being said, Manhattan's energies *should* work on DD initially. While I'm not convinced that he could atomize DD(we only saw him preform this trick on average humans, after all), I'd *think* BFR would still work.... Unless, of course, Manhattan's teleportation works by dematerializing/atomizating someone, and rematerializing them in a different location. In that case we'd have quite the paradoxical conundrum on our hands. mmm

Originally posted by Galan007
That being said, Manhattan's energies *should* work on DD initially. While I'm not convinced that he could atomize DD(we only saw him preform this trick on average humans, after all), I'd *think* BFR would still work.... Unless, of course, Manhattan's teleportation works by dematerializing/atomizating someone, and rematerializing them in a different location. In that case we'd have quite the paradoxical conundrum on our hands. mmm

It doesn't work like that, or at least, Dr M does it this way:

In a fight, he might try the dematerialisation if its more destructive.

^ Cool.

So yeah, Manhattan could win the first battle for sure via BFR, imo.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't work like that, or at least, Dr M does it this way:

In a fight, he might try the dematerialisation if its more destructive.

Great scan this proves that DD cannot resist the BFR..

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Cool.

So yeah, Manhattan could win the first battle for sure via BFR, imo.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't work like that, or at least, Dr M does it this way:

In a fight, he might try the dematerialisation if its more destructive.

Originally posted by h1a8
Non canon source.

Proof?

Great here we go..

Before Watchmen is 100% canon. srsly

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Proof?

Originally posted by Galan007
Before Watchmen is 100% canon. srsly

No it isn't. Both Dave Gibbons and Alan Moore said it isn't.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/27/dave-gibbons-dismisses-before-watchmen-as-really-not-canon/
Plus it's a prequel that contradicts the original storyline.

How do we determine whether a source is canon or not?
Answer:
If the source contradicts the canon source then it is not canon at all.

If two sources contradict then which one has precedent over the other? The one that occurs latest in the timeline? The original one from the original author?
Well Watchmen does both and BeforeWatchmen does neither.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it isn't. Both Dave Gibbons and Alan Moore said it isn't.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/27/dave-gibbons-dismisses-before-watchmen-as-really-not-canon/
Plus it's a prequel that contradicts the original storyline.

How do we determine whether a source is canon or not?
Answer:
If the source contradicts the canon source then it is not canon at all.

If two sources contradict then which one has precedent over the other? The one that occurs latest in the timeline? The original one from the original author?
Well Watchmen does both and BeforeWatchmen does neither.

Gibbons/Moore don't own the rights, neither were they the editors. Them being the authors means jack all.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Gibbons/Moore don't own the rights, neither were they the editors. Them being the authors means jack all.