Smaug vs Red Death

Originally posted by Epicurus
We saw Toothless being roughly the size of its eye. We see a glorified midget being the size of Smaug's eye.

Therefore, going by relative scaling, RD>Smaug in terms of size.

It's size was enough that by flexing alone it ended up shattering the mountain in which it resided.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Smaug's eyes are also proportionately much smaller. What stupid ****ing logic.

You need to rewatch the movie. Then return with an apology.

The Red Death's head is roughly a fourth or so of its total length.

Smaug's head isn't.

You've proven Smaug's head is smaller. That is all.

Nope it isn't.

Smaug is a basically a fat, serpentine dragon who happens to be twice as long as a Boeing 747. The Red Death on the other hand was massive enough to gobble a ship.

RD is bigger overall. Suck it, fatso.

Smaug is IIRC just shy of 200 feet long.

That longship was maybe 50 feet.

Considering the proportionate size of RD's head, this means the size difference is fairly negligible.

Where the feck are you getting this one-fourth sized proportionate head bullshit?

I mean, seriously, where in the hell does one come up with such an asinine conclusion when one looks at the picture bellow:

Size difference isn't enough to make the difference between winning and losing here, that much I agree with. But negligible? Get out of here.

I retract my comment on the proportionate size of its head, but have you scaled RD's body? Do you have a source that has?

I don't need to. Based on screen cap evidence from the movie itself, we can conclude that unlike Smaug, whose neck and tail make up majority of his body length and are individually longer than his torse, the RD's torso is bigger then either its neck or tail. And since its skull is bigger than a medieval warship, the size difference between Smaug and the RD is considerable. Like comparing a lion to a grizzly level considerable.

It is likely heavier, but not so much longer.

Also, longships were relatively small. Scan of this longship?

Likely? It is clearly heavier, and by a considerable margin. Length is irrelevant here, even though they seem to be of roughly the same length. That would be like comparing a cheetah to a jaguar.

The RD is far more robustly built as compared to the serpentine Smaug, has fire at least comparable to Smaug's, and clearly physically outmatches the latter in terms of strength, weight and(to a lesser extent) durability.

I am glad you have conceded that Smaug is about the same length.

Based on what is it much stronger?

Being the same length doesn't mean he is the same size.

Based on common sense. The RD is more robustly built, is heavier. Smaug on the other hand is a slender feminine dragon. 2+2 equals 4, NemeBro.

Where are the feats though?

Superman is much smaller than either, but stronger than both combined.

Based on it shattering apart the base of the volcano just by flexing itself.

Unlike Smaug who had to charge through the mountain to achieve a somewhat similar feat.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Smaug is IIRC just shy of 200 feet long.

That longship was maybe 50 feet.

Considering the proportionate size of RD's head, this means the size difference is fairly negligible.

You do understand that Red Death was 400 feet long and 99 feet tall right? She is easily over twice the size of Smaug that's no question at all.