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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
So BWR is definitely a Bible-thumper, even though he goes out of his way to say "when did I say I was religious" when white-knighting religious arguments and people.

Really?

Last month you suggested I was Muslim:

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

BWR's attempts to white-knight eninn are adorable, especially given that he's the only person eninn ever mentions by name.

Could be that they go to the same mosque together or something.


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=592809&pagenumber=2

The month before that, you suggested I was trolling, while admitting it was actually YOU who were or are a Christian:

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

... there are conservative religious types all over the place, in every state.

... I recall saying my mother's side (my mother's mother to be more specific) had some Methodists and I was raised in that religion, but not my father's side nor my mother's father etc. 1/8th of my heritage is 'southern'.
... Downriver, Metro-Detroit, or even west near Grand Rapids, etc. I was born and raised there too, fancy that.
... you just advocate religious arguments out of ... spite? So you're trolling, is that what you're saying?
... I'm done feeding you.


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=11

The month before that?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

I want you to think outside of your comfort zone. Your answers and positions thus far imply that you can't reason outside of the POV that is sympathetic to Christianity, and furthermore you are unwilling to do so ...


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=3

So I've gone, in your view, from Christian in January, to troll in February, to Muslim in March, to now, in April, a Christian once more.

Three posts on any subject in this forum seems to be the magic determination number for you ...
I'm starting to wonder what will happen if I dare to mention Buddhism again.

Where you put me in May might prove interesting ...

BWR is Troll a religion? You can be a Christian and a troll at the same time, just ask JIA, he was good at it.

If you are a Christian, then you are part of an aerobic religion, and so is someone who is Islamic.

A Christian troll can white-knight in defense of a Muslim.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

You can be a Christian and a troll at the same time,
just ask JIA, he was good at it.

Can't.
He was banned.

But you knew that already, didn't you?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

If you are a Christian, then you are part of an aerobic religion, and so is someone who is Islamic.

I think you mean "Abrahamic".

Try spell check.

Or Stealth Moose.

Same difference.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

A Christian troll can white-knight in defense of a Muslim.

So can anyone who believes people should be allowed to express sincerely held beliefs without completely unwarranted personal attacks and undeserved ridicule.

The kind of simple respect, ironically, that you used to seek for yourself and others when you first joined this forum years ago.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hey everyone,

... this is a place for us to talk.

Feel free to talk about whatever.
Just remember to be nice to each other ...


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t364381.html

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Really?

Last month you suggested I was Muslim:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=592809&pagenumber=2

The month before that, you suggested I was trolling, while admitting it was actually YOU who were or are a Christian:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=11

The month before that?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=3

So I've gone, in your view, from Christian in January, to troll in February, to Muslim in March, to now, in April, a Christian once more.

Three posts on any subject in this forum seems to be the magic determination number for you ...
I'm starting to wonder what will happen if I dare to mention Buddhism again.

Where you put me in May might prove interesting ...

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Can't.
He was banned.

But you knew that already, didn't you?

I think you mean "Abrahamic".

Try spell check.

Or Stealth Moose.

Same difference.

So can anyone who believes people should be allowed to express sincerely held beliefs without completely unwarranted personal attacks and undeserved ridicule.

The kind of simple respect, ironically, that you [b]used to seek for yourself and others when you first joined this forum years ago.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t364381.html [/B]

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Can't.
He was banned.

I thought he was a personal friend of yours.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
But you knew that already, didn't you?

Absolutely, I learned about it the same time you did.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
So can anyone who believes people should be allowed to express sincerely held beliefs without completely unwarranted personal attacks and undeserved ridicule.

No one is attacking YOU. As far as “undeserved ridicule”, I haven’t seen any.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
The kind of simple respect, ironically, that you [b]used to seek for yourself and others when you first joined this forum years ago. [/B]

You have no idea what you are talking about. The first time I ever met you, you accused me of having JIA banned. You pissed me off! Now you are acting like I am some kind of brut! Well, let me tell you: I am a BRUT to anyone who bares false witness against me. Now I will accept an apology and leave you be, but that’s up to you.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Really?

Last month you suggested I was Muslim:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=592809&pagenumber=2

Yeah, in jest. Are you unable to tell the difference between banter for my own amusement and a serious point to be made?

ARE WE HAVING COMMUNICASHUN ISSUEZ? MUST BE YOU /bluewaterridertechnique

The month before that, you suggested I was trolling,

You are trolling. The amount of misdirection is immense. Refocus on me some more, please. My ego needs boosting.

while admitting it was actually YOU who were or are a Christian:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=11

This is not a revelation. I've explicitly told you and others many times that I was raised Christian, and came to a realisation that it's a bogus religion in my 20's. You bringing it up now is pretty stupid, given that I never denied it.

So what exactly did you prove? Anything? Nope. And you dodged the usual questions with the usual misdirection. Well done, sir. Or should I even assume you're male?

The month before that?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=3

So I've gone, in your view, from Christian in January, to troll in February, to Muslim in March, to now, in April, a Christian once more.

No, the muslim thing was a joke, because eninn seems to be your butt-buddy. The active approach you have to defending Christianity pegs you as a Christian, naturally. And trolls are not exclusive to Christians, sorry to say.

Three posts on any subject in this forum seems to be the magic determination number for you ...
I'm starting to wonder what will happen if I dare to mention Buddhism again.

Given your self-professed ignorance on the topic, I imagine I'll link you to Wikipedia.

Where you put me in May might prove interesting ...

No less interesting than the possibly Freudian reason why you don't answer direct questions and carry the argument to the other person habitually. It's like debating with a schizophrenic.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Yeah, in jest. Are you unable to tell the difference between banter for my own amusement and a serious point to be made?...

He can't even tell when someone is legitimately upset with him over something he did.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He can't even tell when someone is legitimately upset with him over something he did.

LANGUAGZ BARRIERZ

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
LANGUAGZ BARRIERZ

Merican high school! The findest en ta werd.

OMG I CANT FIND TEH HIGH SKOOLZ CUZ I TOO BUSEH FINDING BIAZED SOURCEZ

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
OMG I CANT FIND TEH HIGH SKOOLZ CUZ I TOO BUSEH FINDING BIAZED SOURCEZ

Believe it or not, I misspelled one of my typos. 😂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

Are you unable to tell the difference between banter for my own amusement and a serious point to be made?

Problem is that you "banter for your own amusement" so much that you don't seem to have many, if any, serious points.

If you're not lying, it might serve you better to simply say what you mean in the future.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

You are trolling.
The amount of misdirection is immense.

Is it me, then, who posts image after image of lolcats and cartoons, tries to join with Shakyamunison to mock every poster he doesn't like, and tries to goad people with taunts, namecalling, and tasteless, unfunny homosexual jokes?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

Refocus on me some more, please. My ego needs boosting.

I did.

Feel better now?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

I've explicitly told you and others many times that I was raised Christian, and came to a realization that it's a bogus religion in my 20's.

You're implying there is at least one or more "real" religions out there.

I'd be interested to know which ones you consider valid and why.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

eninn seems to be your butt-buddy.

You seem to have an extraordinary preoccupation with sex, homosexual sex particularly. I've yet to find even posters in the Sports forum who bring the topic up as much as you.

What's amazing is that you say something like the above despite the demonstrable and far greater number of times you and Shaky band together to try to defend one another.
How many responses in this very thread on this very page are a tandem of you two against me? I wonder just how great the discrepancy would be shown to be, how much more that phrase applies to you and he if I actually tallied posts up for you two and listed them here?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

the muslim thing was a joke ...

You'll do anything to keep from admitting you have little idea about who I am or what I believe in, won't you?

The "muslim thing" was a joke? Your response to what I wrote here pegs you as one of the most deadpan "humourists" on KMC, then:

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I acted as "White Knight" for eninn a while ago.
And told you many members of my family are Muslim.
And posted a video arguing for the existence of God by an Islamic preacher.

Does that make me a Muslim?


Originally posted by Stealth Moose

It doesn't rule out the possibility ...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=571260&pagenumber=8

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
...Is it me, then, who posts image after image of lolcats and cartoons, tries to join with Shakyamunison to mock every poster he doesn't like, and tries to goad people with taunts, namecalling, and tasteless, unfunny homosexual jokes?

Do you think people are laughing about you behind your back?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you think people are laughing about you behind your back?

And ... right on cue, Shakyamunison flies to the defense of "buddy" Stealth Moose.

As alluded to before, there is far more "White Knighting" on your part for Stealth Moose, or Stealth Moose for you, than there is for me with Eninn, which you two prove consistently.

Responding to your question, though, Shaky, if by "people" you mean yourself, the answer is "only if Shakyamunison was lying or putting on a facade when he typed the following" ...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He can't even tell when someone is legitimately upset with him over something he did.

... which would surprise me relatively little at this point.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
And ... right on cue, Shakyamunison flies to the defense of "buddy" Stealth Moose.

As alluded to before, there is far more "White Knighting" on your part for Stealth Moose, or Stealth Moose for you, than there is for me with Eninn, which you two prove consistently.

Responding to your question, though, Shaky, if by "people" you mean yourself, the answer is "only if Shakyamunison was lying or putting on a facade when he typed the following" ...

... which would surprise me relatively little at this point.

You remind me of an older, smarter Rudy. When people wouldn't accept his point of view he often resorted to victimization and "poor me" tactics. I don't know if he was throwing a red herring in as a distraction from his argument's faults, or if he genuinely thought it would win his detractors over, but... it never worked.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You remind me of an older, smarter Rudy. When people wouldn't accept his point of view he often resorted to victimization and "poor me" tactics. I don't know if he was throwing a red herring in as a distraction from his argument's faults, or if he genuinely thought it would win his detractors over, but... it never worked.

Except

1) I'm not claiming to be a victim

2) I'm not in the least trying to win over Stealth Moose, Shaky, or yourself.

3) The reading audience of this thread is a lot larger than the limited posters typing responses to this point.

Also, as relates to this thread, nothing that Stealth Moose, Shaky, or yourself has brought up is the least bit relevant to what I originally posted.
So there's nothing in relation to this thread for me TO "red herring".

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
And ... right on cue, Shakyamunison flies to the defense of "buddy" Stealth Moose.
As alluded to before, there is far more "White Knighting" on your part for Stealth Moose, or Stealth Moose for you, than there is for me with Eninn, which you two prove consistently.
Responding to your question, though, Shaky, if by "people" you mean yourself, the answer is "only if Shakyamunison was lying or putting on a facade when he typed the following" ...

I’m not telling you that anyone is laughing at you; I am asking you if you think people are laughing at you behind your back? I’m not talking about here; I’m talking about everyday life. So, I will ask the question again:

Do you think people in general are laughing at you behind your back?

The problem, as I see it, is that you are paranoid. You imagine things happening that are not happening. No one is coming to defend anyone. You are just imagining this, and that is making you paranoid.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
... which would surprise me relatively little at this point.

So, you don’t remember accusing me of having JIA banned?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Except

1) I'm not claiming to be a victim

2) I'm not in the least trying to win over Stealth Moose, Shaky, or yourself.

3) The reading audience of this thread is a lot larger than the limited posters typing responses to this point.

Also, as relates to this thread, nothing that Stealth Moose, Shaky, or yourself has brought up is the least bit relevant to what I originally posted.
So there's nothing in relation to this thread for me TO "red herring".

1.) You don't need to use the words "I'm a victim" to play the victim.

2.) You're trying to win over their agreeance. Or convince them to sympathize/see things your way. It's why you're persisting. Honestly if you're not, then you're emotional health needs to be questioned.

3.) 392 views on this thread. I'm at least 15 of those by myself and this is only my second post. How many more are just passers-by skimming in looking for something interesting but not bothering to read the text-walls. And how many more are those f*cking bots and fake accounts.

Regardless, if you're going through all this back-and-forth for "their" purpose, the nameless masses you think are reading this, then you're an attention-seeking contrarian and wannabe proselytizer/"teacher"/alternative. And you're still not winning "them" over with your self-victimization, nor are you convincing these guys with it.

It's the one thing to keep in mind that most people don't: playing the victim when you're trying to argue is just sad and pathetic. It's no wonder Moose takes the piss out of you, you're not holding on to any words of substance.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

You don't need to use the words "I'm a victim" to play the victim.

You also don't need to be alleging anything of substance to make an allegation.

You've done this before with me, after all, have you not?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider

This is the "click-able" version of the above links:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=8

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=589430&pagenumber=6

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You're linking to other posts as an answer... there's someone else here who used to do that a lot. A delightful fellow whom everyone loved.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Indeed. But I'm no more a sock of JesusIsAlive than I imagine you are.

Apparently, there ARE some posters who have had previous usernames and accounts on this forum,
and apparently left it unreported, one even in this thread, but I'm not him.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=588348&pagenumber=6

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Problem is that you "banter for your own amusement" so much that you don't seem to have many, if any, serious points.

I can intersperse sarcasm, banter and humor into posts that generally have very solid points, and I'm extremely blunt and direct when required. Your inability to separate them is probably more telling of you than me.

If you're not lying, it might serve you better to simply say what you mean in the future.

I don't have any reason to lie. Suggesting off-hand that you are a Muslim like eninn was again, meant to be humorous but I see you lack a sense of humor as well as coherent rational thought.

Since it seems to have upset you, please accept this gift:

Is it me, then, who posts image after image of lolcats and cartoons,

I have a fondness for memes and visual humor, and I can very quickly apply them. It saves having to repeat myself all the time to you, which is entirely too common.

tries to join with Shakyamunison to mock every poster he doesn't like,

You're right, we're going to patrol the movie versus forum later. Want to come?

and tries to goad people with taunts,

I began to taunt you in full after many pages of dealing with your dishonest debating tactics and misdirection. You lost all available respect because of your own conduct and behavior, not because I am automatically a bully to everyone I meet or disagree with here.

namecalling,

Hint: Walks like a troll, looks like a troll...

and tasteless, unfunny homosexual jokes?

Since when?

I did.

Feel better now?

Not really. You still haven't supported your previous assertions. Waiting on that natural rules morality which isn't made by man but somehow supports Bible morality in turn. Or somesuch. Your definition was doublespeak.

You're implying there is at least one or more "real" religions out there.

No, I'm not. To say that Christianity is bogus or a bogus religion does not in any way say "but there's something else legit out there".

If the only cure for a disease is made available and it turns out to be fake, this doesn't immediately lend to the conclusion that a real cure exists anyways.

Without evidence, don't assert things. Common sense 101.

I'd be interested to know which ones you consider valid and why.

See above. I don't get why you try to undermine me as being some sekrit Buddhist/Pagan/Christian/Whatever, but then again I don't get why you are humanly incapable of linear discussion either.

You seem to have an extraordinary preoccupation with sex, homosexual sex particularly. I've yet to find even posters in the Sports forum who bring the topic up as much as you.
and tasteless, unfunny homosexual jokes?
You'll do anything to keep from admitting you have little idea about who I am or what I believe in, won't you?

LOL U SO FUNNEH.

What's amazing is that you say something like the above despite the demonstrable and far greater number of times you and Shaky band together to try to defend one another.
How many responses in this very thread on this very page are a tandem of you two against me? I wonder just how great the discrepancy would be shown to be, how much more that phrase applies to you and he if I actually tallied posts up for you two and listed them here?
You'll do anything to keep from admitting you have little idea about who I am or what I believe in, won't you?

This does not even follow.

The "muslim thing" was a joke? Your response to what I wrote here pegs you as one of the most deadpan "humourists" on KMC, then:

[Insert Red Herring Quotes and Links Here]

Yes, shocking that someone would deadpan on a message board. Do you get out much? Of the mosque or cathedral cellar from which you dwell?

Protip:

Spoiler:
That was humor.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
1.) You don't need to use the words "I'm a victim" to play the victim.

2.) You're trying to win over their agreeance. Or convince them to sympathize/see things your way. It's why you're persisting. Honestly if you're not, then you're emotional health needs to be questioned.

3.) 392 views on this thread. I'm at least 15 of those by myself and this is only my second post. How many more are just passers-by skimming in looking for something interesting but not bothering to read the text-walls. And how many more are those f*cking bots and fake accounts.

Regardless, if you're going through all this back-and-forth for "their" purpose, the nameless masses you think are reading this, then you're an attention-seeking contrarian and wannabe proselytizer/"teacher"/alternative. And you're still not winning "them" over with your self-victimization, nor are you convincing these guys with it.

It's the one thing to keep in mind that most people don't: playing the victim when you're trying to argue is just sad and pathetic. It's no wonder Moose takes the piss out of you, you're not holding on to any words of substance.

I love you bro, have my babies (no homo).