Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron absolutely decimated Gandalf in a magical battle in Desolation of Smaug.It was rather obvious he is by far the most powerful being in Lotr prior to this anyway.
I don't dispute that. I was reffering to purely H2H. What your reffering to is a magical battle, not an all out fight with sword, mace & staff.
Not to mention it still does not invalidate my other points.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I don't dispute that. I was reffering to purely H2H. What your reffering to is a magical battle, not an all out fight with sword, mace & staff.Not to mention it still does not invalidate my other points.
Wouldn't "directly fighting a magic user" involve using magic?
Edit. Just reread the stips, I guess you meant based on the stips provided.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Wouldn't "directly fighting a magic user" involve using magic?Edit. Just reread the stips, I guess you meant based on the stips provided.
Not necessarily. If the magic user is using Glamdring as much as he is throwing spells around then it's not purely a magical fight. And Sauron was never physically fighting Dalf in the DOS. Meaning it was purely a magical fight rather than an all out one.
However, both beings were not at full strength either, Gandalf here is The White, and Sauron is physical and has his ring here. The magical battle in DOS is not what will take place here.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I don't dispute that. I was reffering to purely H2H. What your reffering to is a magical battle, not an all out fight with sword, mace & staff.Not to mention it still does not invalidate my other points.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroYou were wrong and went on a long winded ignorant rant.
Infact, going purely by movies, Sauron never directly fought a magic user.
Watch the second movie for pity's sake.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Not necessarily. If the magic user is using Glamdring as much as he is throwing spells around then it's not purely a magical fight. And Sauron was never physically fighting Dalf in the DOS. Meaning it was purely a magical fight rather than an all out one.However, both beings were not at full strength either, Gandalf here is The White, and Sauron is physical and has his ring here. The magical battle in DOS is not what will take place here.
Would depend on how the they decide to fight. It might end up similar to the Witch King vs Gandalf the White where the Witch King just shattered his staff and incapacitated him quite easily. Still pretty magical. Same thing happened in DoS, too. Gandalf loses his staff and becomes pretty much helpless. I know he still has his sword, but he seems incapable of lifting it up to defend himself as soon as he loses his staff.
Staff smashing seems to be a go-to move for the bad guys vs Gandalf. A staffless Gandalf would pretty much be meat for a fully formed Sauron.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You were wrong and went on a long winded ignorant rant.Watch the second movie for pity's sake.
Oh for f**ks sake, I'm even on your side this time, and you still wanna go at me.
English is definitely not your first language if you don't know the meening of "directly". F**k it, I knew you'd waste my time with your crappy rivalry again.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroYou clearly didn't see the movie. Just fess up already and I will show you mercy.
Oh for f**ks sake, I'm even on your side this time, and you still wanna go at me.English is definitely not your first language if you don't know the meening of "directly". F**k it, I knew you'd waste my time with your crappy rivalry again.
Sauron swings his mace and what does Gandalf do ? Did you see him fight the orcs ? Did ya miss that ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You clearly didn't see the movie. Just fess up already and I will show you mercy.Sauron swings his mace and what does Gandalf do ? Did you see him fight the orcs ? Did ya miss that ?
Sauron has Gandolf locked up in the Desolation.
Gandolf has nothing for him. Sauron is made of Loreal.
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