Rune King Thor VS The Spectre

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mangog was weakened and Odin has tooled full power mangog. Loki with all that power had no feat at all.

But, you're the one demanding feats that put Shazam on Odin's level. Here that doesn't apply?

He is saying losing to one character doesn't somehow translate into equal or higher than Odin.

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Odin has better feats, better abilities, a better history, and better wins over opponents.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Mangog was weakened and Odin has tooled full power mangog. Loki with all that power had no feat at all.

But, you're the one demanding feats that put Shazam on Odin's level. Here that doesn't apply?

Odin has never tooled full power Mangog. He's beaten him, sure, but at the cost of his own life or using plot device. Don't know where you got that idea from at all.

The fact that Loki absorbed all of Asgard's energy at that point and siphoned a great deal of Mangog's energy, the same Mangog whom Odin could only beat with great difficulty, isn't a feat?

You're not this dense.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You're not this dense.

You're not giving him enough credit bro. He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does isn't very smart.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin has never tooled full power Mangog. He's beaten him, sure, but at the cost of his own life or using plot device. Don't know where you got that idea from at all.

The fact that Loki absorbed all of Asgard's energy at that point and siphoned a great deal of Mangog's energy, the same Mangog whom Odin could only beat with great difficulty, isn't a feat?

You're not this dense.

Nope, no feat wonder Loki siphoning the energy of asgard and a weakened mangog means what exactly? Any statement about his supposed power level, any feat at all?

I got it. Feats only matter when its supposed to in between a marvel character and DC character.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're not giving him enough credit bro. He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does isn't very smart.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're not giving him enough credit bro. He's the best there is at what he does, and what he does isn't very smart.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, that's you brah. Taking potshots and whining, is that all you've got now?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course he has. He dispersed Mangog after casually stopping him in the very first appearance of Mangog. He's nothing but Odin's own spell given form. Mangog was weakened to begin with and no longer at silver age levels.

Nope, no feat wonder Loki siphoning the energy of asgard and a weakened mangog means what exactly? Any statement about his supposed power level, any feat at all?

I got it. Feats only matter when its supposed to in between a marvel character and DC character.

No...he hasn't. Odin has NEVER easily stopped Mangog. He's stopped him due to using plot device bs or basically killing himself.

...wat? Seriously? Do you know how powerful the mystical energy of Asgard is? I know you do, it's rhetorical, but the fact that Loki absorbed Asgard's energy into himself and stole Mangog's energy to add to his own clearly speaks volumes as to what his power level was. And he had a bootleg Mjolnir on top of that, which wasn't anything to sneer at power level wise (he didn't use any versatility with it, though).

GTFO with that nonsense. There's no Marvel/DC company bias going on here, at least coming from me, so don't start.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No...he hasn't. Odin has NEVER easily stopped Mangog. He's stopped him due to using plot device bs or basically killing himself.

...wat? Seriously? Do you know how powerful the mystical energy of Asgard is? I know you do, it's rhetorical, but the fact that Loki absorbed Asgard's energy into himself and stole Mangog's energy to add to his own clearly speaks volumes as to what his power level was. And he had a bootleg Mjolnir on top of that, which wasn't anything to sneer at power level wise (he didn't use any versatility with it, though).

GTFO with that nonsense. There's no Marvel/DC company bias going on here, at least coming from me, so don't start.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he was the one who created validus. None of these guys possess reality warping and that's why that feat is meaningless here. Its not like mangog fared any better against Odin once he actually used his powers.

Sure thing bro. Just tell me what more hasn't happened in comics.

Yeah, I know. Its not enough to beat a single celestial combined with Odin's power.

vin

Actually Loki doesn't have a single feat or statement with that power. His casual loss against a skyfather doesn't do him any favor either. You could go about using Odin's absorption of Asgard's magic but that's odin and feats aren't transferable.

Hahaha, sure thing bro. Who is asking for feats for shazam in the other thread to make him on Odin's level? You're as biased as any Thorbag I've ever met. Sometime even worse.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Who is asking for feats for shazam in the other thread to make him on Odin's level? You're as biased as any Thorbag I've ever met. Sometime even worse.

Edit.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Edit.

And how do those scans change the outcome?

edit: you pulled the scans

Originally posted by Supra
And how do those scans change the outcome?

edit: you pulled the scans

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean this never happened?

Sure thing bro. Just tell me what more hasn't happened in comics.

Yeah, I know. Its not enough to beat a single celestial combined with Odin's power.

vin

Actually Loki doesn't have a single feat or statement with that power. His casual loss against a skyfather doesn't do him any favor either. You could go about using Odin's absorption of Asgard's magic but that's odin and feats aren't transferable.

Hahaha, sure thing bro. Who is asking for feats for shazam in the other thread to make him on Odin's level? You're as biased as any Thorbag I've ever met. Sometime even worse.

You mean the plot device victory I already referenced? Good job, I guess. Fact is, Odin has NEVER beaten Mangog without plot device shenanigans or at the cost of his own life. He doesn't just beat the shit out of or tool Mangog.

What do Celestials have to do with this outside of serving as another petty deflection?

He stole Mangog's power and absorbed Asgard's energy into himself. THAT IS THE FEAT. What don't you understand about it?

You claimed "Shazam in the RoE > Odin + Asgard + RKT". I asked for feats proving that. You provided nothing except his losing battle with Spectre. Okay...? And really, man? You want to throw out the bias card considering your history and habits and multiple warnings for thread derailing? Really?

But no, clearly there is a Marvel/DC bias here - even though I said Spectre wins in both threads - and somehow you're - AGAIN - the victim on big bad KMC.

Just stop, man.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You mean the plot device victory I already referenced? Good job, I guess. Fact is, Odin has NEVER beaten Mangog without plot device shenanigans or at the cost of his own life. He doesn't just beat the shit out of or tool Mangog.

What do Celestials have to do with this outside of serving as another petty deflection?

He stole Mangog's power and absorbed Asgard's energy into himself. THAT IS THE FEAT. What don't you understand about it?

You claimed "Shazam in the RoE > Odin + Asgard + RKT". I asked for feats proving that. You provided nothing except his losing battle with Spectre. Okay...? And really, man? You want to throw out the bias card considering your history and habits and multiple warnings for thread derailing? Really?

But no, clearly there is a Marvel/DC bias here - even though I said Spectre wins in both threads - and somehow you're - AGAIN - the victim on big bad KMC.

Just stop, man.

That the full power of asgard was nothing to someone above skyfather level? Does the only high feat against skyfather level beings counted here?

Absorbing asgard's power isn't a feat. Absorbing man did it too and Odin dismissed him with a wave of his hands.

Yeah, you asked for feats that make Shazam being on odin's level itself and said its generous for him being on that level. I provided Shazam stalemating and downing spectre for a moment before spectre absorbed his magic and killed him. That's above anything either Odin or RKT have done since Spectre himself was above Odin or RKT. You are simultaneously doing all of these, using absorbing asgard as a feat for loki, denying Spectre's feats and denying Shazam's staleamte with Spectre too. Supposedly I should be impressed with Loki absorbing Asgard's magicks without any feat at all, while Shazam outperforming Captain Marvel with the magicks of whole ****ing universe while heavily weakened isn't impressive or anything. You are the biggest hypocrite here.

You think your thinly veiled bias isn't transparent here? Lulz.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And that's supposed to mean something? Odin dissolved the full power mangog with as much ease as RKT did. What did RKT do that was so impressive to a doubly weakened mangog?

That the full power of asgard was nothing to someone above skyfather level? Does the only high feat against skyfather level beings counted here?

Absorbing asgard's power isn't a feat. Absorbing man did it too and Odin dismissed him with a wave of his hands.

Yeah, you asked for feats that make Shazam being on odin's level itself and said its generous for him being on that level. I provided Shazam stalemating and downing shazam for a moment before spectre absorbed his magic and killed him. That's above anything either Odin or RKT have done since Spectre himself was above Odin or RKT. You are simultaneously doing all of these, using absorbing asgard as a feat for loki, denying Spectre's feats and denying Shazam's staleamte with Spectre too. Supposedly I should be impressed with Loki absorbing Asgard's magicks without any feat at all, while Shazam outperforming Captain Marvel with the magicks of whole ****ing universe while heavily weakened isn't impressive or anything. You are the biggest hypocrite here.

You think your thinly veiled bias isn't transparent here? Lulz.

No, he didn't. Odin had to woken up from the Odinsleep by Thor's raging storm and while he seemingly forced Mangog to split into the original "billion billion" people, he never truly destroyed him. In fact, all he did was reimprison him because he KNEW he couldn't destroy him outright. The next time he tried, the effort practically killed him. So no, Odin has never easily tooled Mangog. RKT, on the hand, completely dispersed Mangog.

The Celestial Host gangbanging Asgard while at one of their most powerful depictions of all time doesn't equate into Shazam doing the same thing inside of the RoE. But at least it's slightly more relevant than using Malekith trying to suffocate Odin while he was in the Odinsleep.

Absorbing Man =/= Loki. Obviously had Odin been there, he would have tooled Loki, too. It doesn't take away from the fact that Loki with all of Asgard's power plus most of Mangog's own is easily Skyfather tier...and RKT dimissed him like less than nothing.

I haven't denied shit for Spectre. All I'm asking for is to you to attempt to prove your bold statement that Shazam in the RoE > Odin + RKT + Asgard. You can't though, because said statement is about as wild as they come and then some. Lol @ me being the biggest hypocrite here, the guy saying Spectre beats Thor.

Lol x 2 at my "transparent thinly veiled bias". Same old dance again? Really? I really don't know how you can have the gall to excuse anyone else of having bias or hypocrisy. Do you not read your own posts and somehow think you're infallible or something?

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Absorbing Man absorbed some Asgardian marble:

He claimed that after finishing with Odin, he'd absorb the power of Asgard and rule the entire Universe. Not entirely certain how that translates into Loki drawing power from Asgard being a non-feat. After all, Odin absorbed some energy from the land and held his own against Seth when deprived of the Odin Force.

Fyi, the Odin Force sustains all of the Nine Worlds.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, he didn't. Odin had to woken up from the Odinsleep by Thor's raging storm and while he seemingly forced Mangog to split into the original "billion billion" people, he never truly destroyed him. In fact, all he did was reimprison him because he KNEW he couldn't destroy him outright. The next time he tried, the effort practically killed him. So no, Odin has never easily tooled Mangog. RKT, on the hand, completely dispersed Mangog.

The Celestial Host gangbanging Asgard while at one of their most powerful depictions of all time doesn't equate into Shazam doing the same thing inside of the RoE. But at least it's slightly more relevant than using Malekith trying to suffocate Odin while he was in the Odinsleep.

Absorbing Man =/= Loki. Obviously had Odin been there, he would have tooled Loki, too. It doesn't take away from the fact that Loki with all of Asgard's power plus most of Mangog's own is easily Skyfather tier...and RKT dimissed him like less than nothing.

I haven't denied shit for Spectre. All I'm asking for is to you to attempt to prove your bold statement that Shazam in the RoE > Odin + RKT + Asgard. You can't though, because said statement is about as wild as they come and then some. Lol @ me being the biggest hypocrite here, the guy saying Spectre beats Thor.

Lol x 2 at my "transparent thinly veiled bias". Same old dance again? Really? I really don't know how you can have the gall to excuse anyone else of having bias or hypocrisy. Do you not read your own posts and somehow think you're infallible or something?

Right. We all saw how much effect the Odin destroyer had on a single celestial. Destroyer was no match for a single celestial and that was Odin with all the odin power+asgard. Now we're going to use portrayals and shit? Celestials don't have a single issue appearance bro, we can gauge their power levels.

Is he? Odin who is a top skyfather in himself+the whole of asgardian power was matched by Surtur with twilight and dismissed by celestials. Loki ain't no odin brah and he didn't have odin power either. He didn't have any depiction of being a skyfather either. Stop equating Odin's feats and Loki's depiction. He was no skyfather there.

You did the most laughable thing, you tried to demean it by saying Alex manipulated Spectre and then backpeddled. And I'm going to call bull on ever stating that shzam>odin+RKT+asgard. I said Spectre would demolish them.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre without any amp fought ZH Parallax who was able to create most of the infinite universe and fighting spectre drained him of all that energy.

http://i.imgur.com/MLEz6Tw.jpg

He can channel the power of presence itself.

http://i.imgur.com/qv6zjMY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mHGFtHl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ui30UKw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f9GxZWI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jEstuit.jpg

Create a new creation.

http://i.imgur.com/AsTJAiU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TNzgCjN.jpg

Fight Micahael Demiurgos himself although he lost.

http://i.imgur.com/ppJJdWv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bO4UVPq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VbGa2S7.jpg

Combine Odin, RKT and all of asgard and he would still wreck all of them with ease.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He didn't wreck Shazam inside the Rock of Eternity with ease, so he's not going to wreck Odin/RKT/Asgard with ease depending on the incarnation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yet he wrecked Nabu with ease and the same with Thunderbolt and destroyed so many magic users that Alex Luthor created a new multiverse using that magical energy.

That only shows just how much of a beast Shazam is inside ROE.

You somehow figured out Shazam>Odin+RKT+Asgard from that. My only claim regarding Shazam was that him downing Spectre shits on anything Odin has done and then you went 'Odin trembled reality, waah, waah, waah."

Nice baiting though.

I never said anything about me being infallible, did I? But you who think "Me am total saintly and unbiased" come across as biased as anybody and then pretend it is subtle? LOL.

Rk Thor wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rk Thor wins.

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