Originally posted by h1a8
Juggs has been portrayed without a notion of a force field by certain writers. This implies him being naturally durable. Even when Juggs has a forcefield then it is ALWAYS ON. But to kill the argument, if Juggs has been shown or hinted with a forcefield as being the source of his durability more than he wasn't then by default we get force field Juggs here.
I'm going to make this very clear to you: I am discussing Juggernaut's durability WITHOUT his force field. If you want to argue Juggernaut is more durable with his force field (Even though I disagree), that is acceptable.
It's the notion that he's anywhere near as durable as the Destroyer without his force field that is hilariously laughable.
Anyways, do you or do you not have any feats for Juggernaut without his force field that support your claims? It's either a yes or no. Stop dancing around the issue.
Juggernaut's force field is NOT the source of his durability. It is the source of his invulnerability as far back as the 60's. It's not an either or situation.
Originally posted by h1a8
Also, Classic full power juggs has never been cut or bruised by physical forces. The times he was hurt (like being burned by fire) is PIS and unusable. Considering the shit Juggs tanked, other showings like that is more PIS than Spidey vs. Firelord is.
That's a flat out lie.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor never cause any visible damage to Juggs. If you use being knocked around as evidence then Thor has knocked around the destroyer as well. Also Thor depowered Juggs. Depowered Juggs is not in this thread.
Smh. Gushing blood is not the only measure for damage or hurting someone. Especially back in the 70's. The clear implication was that Juggernaut was one punch away from a defeat/knock out. By definition, he was getting hurt.
I'm not referencing the Juggernaut vs. Thor fight because Thor was simply knocking him around. I'm using it because it gives us a good indication as to what type of force is necessary to take him out. Which is far below the Destroyer.
Thor removed his force field sure, but like I said, I'm not discussing Juggernaut with his force field.
Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry but someone surviving a Godblast while barely feeling tickled is far beyond any top tier. So how in the hell would he compare? You seem to be the only person who don't see Juggs as the most durable beings in comics. You are very lonely here.
Juggernaut is one of the toughest Heralds. With his force field, he's above Herald level in durability. That much is true, no need to oversell it.