Originally posted by Golgo13
Do you have the scans of Shathan getting the upper hand on Spectre?
Shathan never had the upper hand on Spectre (that was Azmodus, who is Shathan's servant), here's their original encounter in Showcase #61:
http://i.imgur.com/mJuqjb1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZtmOC6Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BQMEwGp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lRqqqpU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xnBBBAM.jpg
Spectre only beat him by getting him to the big bang, while he did the opposite to Azmodus in the prior issue; he went to the end of the universe and trapped Azmodus in non-space non-time (After universe's destruction).
Spectre also had an encounter with Shathan post crisis, in his 3rd solo series, though Shathan was weakened there, but he still managed to give Spectre a fight.
Originally posted by operator616In lieu of Shathan's statement that he'd only been able to "reconstitute this miserable form" since he and Spectre last battled:
Spectre also had an encounter with Shathan post crisis, in his 3rd solo series, though Shathan was weakened there, but he still managed to give Spectre a fight.
After all, Shathan was utterly toying with Spectre in Hell, until Spectre pulled an ability out of his ass that not even Shathan knew about:
http://imgur.com/AJbAc6F
http://imgur.com/wO7Avfd
http://imgur.com/Epl7phc
http://imgur.com/JMcXQYb
http://imgur.com/zEZutSm
http://imgur.com/VOOiAuG
http://imgur.com/k7A47m5
Spectre was just written more powerful in that scene, imo.
Originally posted by Galan007
In lieu of Shathan's statement that he'd only been able to "reconstitute this miserable form" since he and Spectre last battled:
http://imgur.com/A1mmdEo
I still viewed Spectre beating him as a very high feat for Spectre, and not really a low showing for Shathan.
Yeah, i agree that it is a high showing for the spectre as opposed to a low showing for Shathan (i never said otherwise). Also it should be noted that, while Shathan was weaker than normal (due to his statement of only being able to "reconstitute this miserable form"😉, he did imply that his power grows in that realm.
Originally posted by Galan007After all, Shathan was utterly toying with Spectre in Hell, until Spectre pulled an ability out of his ass that not even Shathan knew about:
http://imgur.com/AJbAc6F
http://imgur.com/wO7Avfd
http://imgur.com/Epl7phc
http://imgur.com/JMcXQYb
http://imgur.com/zEZutSm
http://imgur.com/VOOiAuG
http://imgur.com/k7A47m5Spectre was just written more powerful in that scene, imo.
👆
Originally posted by operator616I know you didn't. I just wanted to post the scene before some retard came in here and tried using the instance you initially described to low-ball Spectre.
Yeah, i agree that it is a high showing for the spectre as opposed to a low showing for Shathan (i never said otherwise). Also it should be noted that, while Shathan was weaker than normal (due to his statement of only being able to "reconstitute this miserable form"😉, he did imply that his power grows in that realm.👆
Originally posted by operator616
Shathan never had the upper hand on Spectre (that was Azmodus, who is Shathan's servant), here's their original encounter in Showcase #61:http://i.imgur.com/mJuqjb1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZtmOC6Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BQMEwGp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lRqqqpU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xnBBBAM.jpgSpectre only beat him by getting him to the big bang, while he did the opposite to Azmodus in the prior issue; he went to the end of the universe and trapped Azmodus in non-space non-time (After universe's destruction).
Spectre also had an encounter with Shathan post crisis, in his 3rd solo series, though Shathan was weakened there, but he still managed to give Spectre a fight.
Dayum! You convinced me. Shathan is probably the most powerful here. Who do you think wins between Shathan and Nekron?
Originally posted by operator616lol.
Shathan never had the upper hand on Spectre (that was Azmodus, who is Shathan's servant), here's their original encounter in Showcase #61:http://i.imgur.com/mJuqjb1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZtmOC6Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BQMEwGp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lRqqqpU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xnBBBAM.jpgSpectre only beat him by getting him to the big bang, while he did the opposite to Azmodus in the prior issue; he went to the end of the universe and trapped Azmodus in non-space non-time (After universe's destruction).
Spectre also had an encounter with Shathan post crisis, in his 3rd solo series, though Shathan was weakened there, but he still managed to give Spectre a fight.
Oh old school comics and there attacks.
I'll be sure to bring this up next time Surfer's comet showings come up. Although I like how he goes the sun, to a volcano... and from a volcano to a damned big bang. Natural progression.
Originally posted by operator616
http://i.imgur.com/mJuqjb1.jpg
That's some crazy stuff there.
Spectre threw a punch that transcended hundreds of billions of light years.
^ When i said that Shathan was multi-universal, i was referring to his scale of influence, since he was able to break the break the barriers between his world (while being in control of his cosmos) and the physical-matter universe (though even that was with help).
While when i said that Nekron has "universal power" i was referring to his destructive capabilities. Even part of his power empowered Krona to a point where he was able to destroy the universe (albeit, gradually).
Those are different things, perhaps i should have been more specific.
