Can you picture Jesus using genocide as Noah’s God did?

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Can you picture Jesus using genocide as Noah’s God did?

Can you picture Jesus using genocide as Noah’s God did?

The O.T. God has been described as the vilest God imaginable.

The N.T. shows Jesus as a much softer and gentler and loving God.

Many say that Jesus is God even though there are many who dispute that notion for a number of good reasons.

For this O P, I will assume that there is a Trinity. If you are a Trinitarian, then you would have to see the non-judgemental Jesus who would not even stone a prostitute, as the judgemental O.T. God of Noah’s day, --- who will even drown babies and children.

How do you reconcile the O.T. God with the kind, gentle and forgiving Jesus?

Some will point to a new covenant but God himself says that nothing he says will ever be retract and Jesus himself referred back to the old covenant in the bible so let’s not argue that please.

Can you picture Jesus doing the vile things that scriptures say he did in the O.T.?

Regards
DL

First - The bible is not a book of facts. The bible is a book of stories.
Second - Jesus was not a god until the Council of Nicaea (325 CE).
Lastly - Jesus didn't do anything in the OT, and nether did God.

The Old Testament God and New Testament God are the same God. Although there were times when God destroyed nations in the OT, he only did so because of man's wickedness. If God had not destroyed them, the world would be even worse off than it is now. Besides, God was merciful- He saved Noah. Life and grace are God's gifts to us, not something we could ever deserve. Forgiveness is more prominent in the NT because Jesus' death makes salvation/forgiveness truly possible and permanent.
Most importantly, the "OT God" was the very God who sent Jesus, His only Son, to us- the ultimate act of mercy.

Originally posted by m317
The Old Testament God and New Testament God are the same God. Although there were times when God destroyed nations in the OT, he only did so because of man's wickedness. If God had not destroyed them, the world would be even worse off than it is now. Besides, God was merciful- He saved Noah. Life and grace are God's gifts to us, not something we could ever deserve. Forgiveness is more prominent in the NT because Jesus' death makes salvation/forgiveness truly possible and permanent.
Most importantly, the "OT God" was the very God who sent Jesus, His only Son, to us- the ultimate act of mercy.

So, an all powerful God could not think of a more creative way to fix his creation?

I still don't understand why an all-powerful God has to sacrifice millions of people, and later sacrifice his own self-proclaimed son, to save us all from evil he created.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I still don't understand why an all-powerful God has to sacrifice millions of people, and later sacrifice his own self-proclaimed son, to save us all from evil he created.

It just doesn't make sense when you stop to think. That is why thinking is not allowed.

He said he didn't like what they became and straight up destroyed them for there heresy.

Re: Can you picture Jesus using genocide as Noah’s God did?

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Can you picture Jesus using genocide as Noah’s God did?

The O.T. God has been described as the vilest God imaginable.

The N.T. shows Jesus as a much softer and gentler and loving God.

Many say that Jesus is God even though there are many who dispute that notion for a number of good reasons.

For this O P, I will assume that there is a Trinity. If you are a Trinitarian, then you would have to see the non-judgemental Jesus who would not even stone a prostitute, as the judgemental O.T. God of Noah’s day, --- who will even drown babies and children.

How do you reconcile the O.T. God with the kind, gentle and forgiving Jesus?

Some will point to a new covenant but God himself says that nothing he says will ever be retract and Jesus himself referred back to the old covenant in the bible so let’s not argue that please.

Can you picture Jesus doing the vile things that scriptures say he did in the O.T.?

Regards
DL

Man I can't wait for Jesus to come back and wreck this place as he talked about. Its gonna be one hell of a show.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
... Jesus was not a god until the Council of Nicaea (325 CE).

😕

What was he before then?

Originally posted by m317
The Old Testament God and New Testament God are the same God. Although there were times when God destroyed nations in the OT, he only did so because of man's wickedness. If God had not destroyed them, the world would be even worse off than it is now. Besides, God was merciful- He saved Noah. Life and grace are God's gifts to us, not something we could ever deserve. Forgiveness is more prominent in the NT because Jesus' death makes salvation/forgiveness truly possible and permanent.
Most importantly, the "OT God" was the very God who sent Jesus, His only Son, to us- the ultimate act of mercy.

Right on the money

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
😕

What was he before then?

A teacher. A human, or as in my religion, a Bodhisattva.

Jesus is Gods advocate for humanity. Better to know him and believe in him then to not know him at all.

God Almighty is fearless

Originally posted by Supra
Jesus is Gods advocate for humanity. Better to know him and believe in him then to not know him at all.

God Almighty is fearless

So, you advocate fear over truth?

God the Almighty is Fearless.

Imagine him as a parent. You see your children, Soddom adn Gamorrah, doing bad things. So what does a good all-powerful parent do? He burns them alive and starts over instead of trying to reason with his children and show them love and mercy.

Makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
God the Almighty is Fearless.

Imagine him as a parent. You see your children, Soddom adn Gamorrah, doing bad things. So what does a good all-powerful parent do? He burns them alive and starts over instead of trying to reason with his children and show them love and mercy.

Makes perfect sense.

“I brought you in this world, and I can take you out!”

Bill Cosby

One of the greats.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I still don't understand why an all-powerful God has to sacrifice millions of people, and later sacrifice his own self-proclaimed son, to save us all from evil he created.

God did not create evil. What God created was good; it was what the men of Noah's time were doing (of their own free will) that was evil.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you advocate fear over truth?

I advocate anything God wants to do. I dont' question it, I answer it.

Besides, God did everything to reason with the people of Sodom and Gommorah, and if five of them would have been righteous, He wouldn't have destroyed it. (Genesis 18) The one righteous man (and his family), Lot, was spared.

Originally posted by Supra
I advocate anything AllahGod wants to do. I dont' question it, I answer it.

^ You sure about that? That kind of reasoning sounds like the ones used by people who kill infidels.

Originally posted by m317
God did not create evil. What God created was good; it was what the men of Noah's time were doing (of their own free will) that was evil.

According to Genesis, everything comes from God. This includes evil. For nothing existed before he brought it forth into being. Or is that all not true?

Originally posted by m317
Besides, God did everything to reason with the people of Sodom and Gommorah, and if five of them would have been righteous, He wouldn't have destroyed it. (Genesis 18) The one righteous man (and his family), Lot, was spared.

Good post!