Who was more impressive; Voldemort or Sauron ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, but the bulk of his feats were listening to Voldemort. The guy isn't impressive at all.

More impressive in terms of intelligence than Voldemort. 👆

No, they kept him stuck on his tower. An army of Ents are greater than Saruman. What the hell did you expect ?

I am only pointing out that this super competent follower that you believe helped Sauron along was made a non-threat in the span of a single movie.

Snape was a competent follower of Dumbledore.

Not Voldemort. 👆

The guy was in the shadows and maintained the utmost secrecy until his death. He was competent.

Unlike Voldemort. 👆

Saruman was a good follower whereas Pettigrew was a wimp who was afraid of everyone and did not have a backbone.

A man can be cowardly and competent at the same time.

Sauron's troops lost. Voldemort overtook the Ministry. Voldemort seized power and was not stopped by his mothers charm of protection.

Voldemort's troops held the Ministry (Aka a small part of Britain) for about a month.

Sauron held all of Mordor and made incursions into the rest of Middle-earth for centuries. 👆

Voldemort killed him anyway. Awesome for Voldemort.

And killing him helped lead directly to his downfall. 👇

Hell, Voldemort is the same stupid ponce who was tricked by Mrs. Malfoy. He has the ability to tell if someone is lying, but is too stupid to make use of it. What a dumb **********.

Untrue. All that was required was the destruction of the ring. Thats it. For all his armies just tossing a ring in stopped him and his armies.

It required armies manfighting his armies to make the destruction of the ring possible. 👆

Or did it just take a single teenager beating him in a duel to defeat Voldemort quan?

They did realize he was back. Most didn't believe Sauron was coming back either. Sauron never came back whereas Voldemort did. Voldemort also conquered wizards not a world of elves, hobbits, and weak men who Sauron couldn't even conquer.

Voldemort conquered a small group of wizards. Sauron was a threat to the world.

Also, even without a body he is more powerful than any wizard. 👆

No, they don't. Far more impressive abilities than Gandalf the gay.

Reported.

Voldemort solos all Lotr dragons.

Voldemort couldn't solo your mother. Even though everyone else has.

Sauron, easy.

Voldy has more presence than Sauron, but Voldy is still the guy that got his ass whipped by a teenager.

Originally posted by Impediment
Sauron, easy.

Voldy has more presence than Sauron, but Voldy is still the guy that got his ass whipped by a teenager.

Originally posted by Impediment
Sauron, easy.

Voldy has more presence than Sauron, but Voldy is still the guy that got his ass whipped by a teenager.

Well to be fair, Sauron tucked tail when his finger got cut off. Not exactly so badass either.

He was butchering an entire army of elves and half-elven badasses, equipped with weapons and armor surpassing the finest human smiths. I'd say his "WHERE'S MAH BODY" is acceptable in this case.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well to be fair, Sauron tucked tail when his finger got cut off. Not exactly so badass either.

Writing Fail and it had to happen due to books

Originally posted by NemeBro
More impressive in terms of intelligence than Voldemort. 👆

I am only pointing out that this super competent follower that you believe helped Sauron along was made a non-threat in the span of a single movie.

Not Voldemort. 👆

Unlike Voldemort. 👆

A man can be cowardly and competent at the same time.

Voldemort's troops held the Ministry (Aka a small part of Britain) for about a month.

Sauron held all of Mordor and made incursions into the rest of Middle-earth for centuries. 👆

And killing him helped lead directly to his downfall. 👇

Hell, Voldemort is the same stupid ponce who was tricked by Mrs. Malfoy. He has the ability to tell if someone is lying, but is too stupid to make use of it. What a dumb **********.

It required armies manfighting his armies to make the destruction of the ring possible. 👆

Or did it just take a single teenager beating him in a duel to defeat Voldemort quan?

Voldemort conquered a small group of wizards. Sauron was a threat to the world.

Also, even without a body he is more powerful than any wizard. 👆

Reported.

Voldemort couldn't solo your mother. Even though everyone else has.

This makes no sense and doesn't take into account the time he was an actual threat or what he faced off against. According to you living in fear and being spineless while being someone's household pet is ingenious.

I never said he was a follower of Voldemort's. Voldemort still killed him anyway. 🙂

Voldemort was competent and overtook the wizarding world. He was so competent Snape couldn't even actively come at him and still died by Voldemort's command.

Pettigrew wasn't that good just a yes man. He basically hid and cried while listening to Voldemort out of fear. Pettigrew is a good slave. That's all.

Sauron didn't hold the elves, the hobbits, or the dwarves. Voldemort took over the wizarding world which is far more impressive than Middle Earth which Sauron never held control over.

She lied to him. Big whoop. Betrayal was needed to stop Voldemort unlike Sauron who just lost. 🙂

The armies were inconsequential to destroying the ring. Hell, any old wizard from Potter could fly it and drop it into Mount Doom.

Voldemort conquered a governing body of wizards whereas Sauron couldn't conquer a disorganized band of resistance. Voldemort assumed power and a body back whereas Sauron could do neither.

Sauron can't even get his body back. He just sits idly by and can't even move from his destination. Voldemort can fly and go wherever he wants. 🙂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
He was butchering an entire army of elves and half-elven badasses, equipped with weapons and armor surpassing the finest human smiths. I'd say his "WHERE'S MAH BODY" is acceptable in this case.

Yeah and Voldermort had the entire wizarding community scared shitless of him. He was dispatching the greatest wizards left and right. Then he got trounced by a baby boy and later by a teenage boy.

Sauron had the entire middle earth quivering in fear. He was dispatching humans and elves left and right. Then he got his finger cut off and that was that.

But they're not the same. Disembodied Sauron defeated the defenses of even Gandalf the Grey, who is the same guy that fist-fights Balrogs.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
But they're not the same. Disembodied Sauron defeated the defenses of even Gandalf the Grey, who is the same guy that fist-fights Balrogs.

An even more powerful version was shown up by the Witch King who went down to Aragorn and a torch.

Let's play this game.

He also used a sword and magic against the Balrog.

Aragorn didn't kill the Witch-king; he ambushed him. It's kind of a lame example since in the books, Aragorn would crap himself instead of fighting the Nine. But whatever. You love low-balling LOTR, which is why you only debate the film products, so you can disregard anything that might challenge your bias.

You should make a thread of book Voldy versus book Sauron/Gandalf/etc. sometime.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Aragorn didn't kill the Witch-king; he ambushed him. It's kind of a lame example since in the books, Aragorn would crap himself instead of fighting the Nine. But whatever. You love low-balling LOTR, which is why you only debate the film products, so you can disregard anything that might challenge your bias.

You should make a thread of book Voldy versus book Sauron/Gandalf/etc. sometime.

I bring up all the feats you want to ignore how the guy is portrayed in the films.

This is the movie versus if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the movie forum. Quit trying to go around the rules because you're upset a mere torch owned the Nazgul.

I bring up all the feats you want to ignore how the guy is portrayed in the films.

This is the movie versus if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And the reason you steer clear of the books is because they upset your bias. You don't need to be embarrassed about that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have never read the books, detective. Movies only. Cry elsewhere.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I'm not really surprised.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the movies forum. Anyone crying about the books demonstrates a clear bias wanting the other side to win. That is obvious. You acting like I left them out due to bias in the movie forum was off. You aren't a good detective.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No detective work. You avoid the All Vs. forum on this topic for a reason. You don't even make a thread about it just to gauge the characters from another perspective. If you, did you would find something that would upset your bias, hence you ignoring it. There's nothing wrong with that, but your obsession with the Harry Potter characters really lends you to unlikeability and dismissal. Maybe you should try branching out? Explore the worlds outside your fandoms? You might like it. Learn something even.

I have seen all of these movies before so I will stick to what I've seen and not go around threads in which I don't have adequate knowledge to have an opinion on.

Based off the films Voldemort is hands down more impressive and powerful.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No detective work. You avoid the All Vs. forum on this topic for a reason.

Then why are you here?

The are both amazing.