Originally posted by carver9
Lobo strength increasing might just be a one time phrase that has no relevance or on panel depictions (kind of like Doomsday...said the same thing about him but nothing shown on panel proving if the statement is true).
One time thing? Why do you think he has dynamic strength to begin with? All his high end showing, the ones where he suddenly leaps beyond what a Herald can do, have a common factor. Its him entering those berserk rage. Its been a part of his history since his re-introduction from Omega Man.
Originally posted by "Id"
It was clearly worded.It was mentioned in "the Last of Us". It also goes on to say that his adrenaline intensity that fuels his strength, is sustained for as long as his healing factor can hold up.
Which story is the Last of Us?
What you're describing says that his healing factor can maintain the boost he gets from his adrenaline levels. Which actually makes sense and has also been attributed to Wolverine. Getting stronger because his adrenaline is pumping doesn't mean he has dynamic strength. I also don't understand why you think that proves NO ONE has ever faced Lobo's peak strength? 😕 We've seen an angry Lobo fight other Heralds.
Like I said, a cleverly worded panel doesn't actually mean anything in a fight with the Hulk. Lobo having "dynamic strength" is about as relevant as Ulik's "dynamic strength" in a fight with the Hulk.
Originally posted by "Id"
Anyhow here is another example:
Normal Lobo
http://imgur.com/3zXg3YwRage Fueld Lobo
http://imgur.com/fWh0Zzi
http://imgur.com/dNzPZdv
I don't understand what these scans are suppose to mean?
He grew from a smear to his full sized body which is cool I guess but I never denied that this was beyond his healing factor's capability. What is this suppose to mean in a fight against the Hulk though?
Originally posted by "Id"
All his high end showing, the ones where he suddenly leaps beyond what a Herald can do, have a common factor. Its him entering those berserk rage.
You literally just defined like every other Herald strong man out there.
Comparing this to the Hulk is just freaking silly bro.
Lobo DOES fluctuate more then other characters as he can go from being crushed by a bulldozer to trading blows with heralds but that's a result of his more cartoonish appearances.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusExactly. Acting like he has dynamic strength which is acknowledged by virtually every writer who has handled the hulk for years to a few comments and a faulty justification is just wishful thinking.
You literally just defined like every other Herald strong man out there.Comparing this to the Hulk is just freaking silly bro.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Which story is the Last of Us?What you're describing says that his healing factor can maintain the boost he gets from his adrenaline levels. Which actually makes sense and has also been attributed to Wolverine. Getting stronger because his adrenaline is pumping doesn't mean he has dynamic strength. I also don't understand why you think that proves NO ONE has ever faced Lobo's peak strength? 😕 We've seen an angry Lobo fight other Heralds.
Like I said, a cleverly worded panel doesn't actually mean anything in a fight with the Hulk. Lobo having "dynamic strength" is about as relevant as Ulik's "dynamic strength" in a fight with the Hulk.
I don't understand what these scans are suppose to mean?
He grew from a smear to his full sized body which is cool I guess but I never denied that this was beyond his healing factor's capability. What is this suppose to mean in a fight against the Hulk though?
What it means is very simple. He strength goes up, as his rage intensifies.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly. Acting like he has dynamic strength which is acknowledged by virtually every writer who has handled the hulk for years to a few comments and a faulty justification is just wishful thinking.
That and with all the other times Thor's outright outperformed his previous levels, there's far more evidence to support Thor having dynamic strength then Lobo. But he doesn't. Not like the Hulk.
Originally posted by "Id"
The book is called. "DC Universe: Last Sons"What it means is very simple. He strength goes up, as his rage intensifies.
Wait, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/DC-Universe-Last-Alan-Grant/dp/1599506483
Lol, that seems to be some kind of audio book?
No, it really doesn't. Maybe you described it wrong but that's not what it means.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusLobo DOES fluctuate more then other characters as he can go from being crushed by a bulldozer to trading blows with heralds but that's a result of his more cartoonish appearances.
Originally posted by "Id"
Your being childish. Look outside his own titles, that are meant to appeal to dark humor. And into his mainstream appearances. Lobo is one of the most consist heralds, without entering his Berserk Rage.
I really don't think I'm the one being childish here.
Lol, berserk rage? Really? Since when is that a thing? Can you reference a single fight where Lobo overcame an enemy due to dynamic strength? You seem to be confusing getting pushed and overcoming one's limitations with dynamic strength. And not just anyone's dynamic strength, the freaking Hulk's. 😐
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/DC-Universe-Last-Alan-Grant/dp/1599506483Lol, that seems to be some kind of audio book?
No, it really doesn't. Maybe you described it wrong but that's not what it means.
In the book, he is locked up in a cell that zaps him every time he strikes it. However the cell also drains his emotional energy. Lobo finds out that he can not build up his anger, and thus his strength to teardown the cell, because the prison drains him of his anger/rage.
The book is quiet literal about it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I really don't think I'm the one being childish here.Lol, berserk rage? Really? Since when is that a thing? Can you reference a single fight where Lobo overcame an enemy due to dynamic strength? You seem to be confusing getting pushed and overcoming one's limitations with dynamic strength. And not just anyone's dynamic strength, the freaking Hulk's. 😐
Originally posted by "Id"
Lobo's Back. When he tore through the armies of Heaven, Hell, and the Gods. mhmm
First of all, please make up your mind:
Originally posted by "Id"
Look outside his own titles, that are meant to appeal to dark humor. And into his mainstream appearances.
You seem to realize that his own titles are a completely different animal from mainstream comics but seem to want to use them and ignore them at the same time.
Also, at what point in that comic was dynamic strength referenced?
Originally posted by Golgo13
At base/average levels, Lobo wins. It's near impossible to take him out with his healing factor.
And how does that let him beat the Hulk exactly? At best, it's an indefinite stalemate as Hulk beats him into paste and Lobo reforms.
Originally posted by "Id"
Its a book. It was also released as an audio book.In the book, he is locked up in a cell that zaps him every time he strikes it. However the cell also drains his emotional energy. Lobo finds out that he can not build up his anger, and thus his strength to teardown the cell, because the prison drains him of his anger/rage.
The book is quiet literal about it.
Do you have scans? I've never read this book myself and it would solve the issue. Your original description hinted at his strength increasing with adrenaline and being sustained by his healing factor. And even this description doesn't really change anything in a fight with the Hulk.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
First of all, please make up your mind:You seem to realize that his own titles are a completely different animal from mainstream comics but seem to want to use them and ignore them at the same time.
Also, at what point in that comic was dynamic strength referenced?
And how does that let him beat the Hulk exactly? At best, it's an indefinite stalemate as Hulk beats him into paste and Lobo reforms.
Lobo is quite strong himself. As we've seen in his Superman/Pulsar Stargrave battles. He can KO Hulk, IMO.,
Originally posted by Golgo13
Lobo is quite strong himself. As we've seen in his Superman/Pulsar Stargrave battles. He can KO Hulk, IMO.,
Yes he is but he's no Hulk. Not really. Trading blows with elites and tossing around some Stellar Mass is cool but if you think it proves he can beat the Hulk in a hand to hand fight? Well, I guess, that's why opinions are great. Even the uninformed can have them.
Also, his fight with Smite is far more relevant to a fight with the Hulk than tossing Pulsar. And since his first fight against Superman has been retconned, referring to Clark in a fight with the Hulk? Not really the best bet.....