Darth Tyranus and Darth Maul vs. Mace Windu and Kenobi

All combatants are at the peak of their power

Scenario 1:
Location: Vjun

Scenario 2:
Location: Sidious vs. Maul and Savage

Scenario 3:
Location: Jedi Temple

Who takes this?

1. The Sith.

2. Split, maybe slight majority to the Jedi.

3. Jedi.

Jedi in all.

This is like the other thread with Maul instead of Kenobi, isn't it?

OP
Scenario 1:
Location: Vjun

OP
Scenario 2:
Location: Sidious vs. Maul and Savage

Lightsaber ability should be roughly even, though the Sith are somewhat more skilled and have better physical attributes. Team 1 should win a small majority, though, because of them being more powerful.

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Scenario 3:
Location: Jedi Temple

Originally posted by ares834
Jedi in all.

How the heck are Mace and Kenobi going to win this on Vjun?

By beating them. Mace will beat Dooku and Kenobi will be able to last at least long enough for Windu to help mop up Maul.

Originally posted by ares834
By beating them. Mace will beat Dooku and Kenobi will be able to last at least long enough for Windu to help mop up Maul.

Ares is actually correct here.. even if he's wrong on Gothmog and Sauron 😉

In Sith Hunters Maul effortlessly force chokes Kenobi in a place strong in the dark side. Whilst this is frigging Vjun!

In ROTS Dooku effortlessly force chokes Kenobi while fighting off Skywalker in a neutral setting. And again this is frigging Vjun.

Kenobi will be fodder here then Mace will get double teamed by 2 of Sidious' s apprentices on a frigging Dark Side nexus.

Originally posted by Intrepid37

Tyranus and Maul in a literal curbstomp. Not only are their regular telekinetic feats better than Mace's and Obi-Wan's, Vjun fueles their powers and decreases the Jedi's: they're simply too powerful with such an advantage.

Agreed. Here is a quote from Yoda: Dark Rendezvous:

"Among the other Jedi, perhaps only Mace Windu would have been (Tyranus's) equal on neutral ground: but her on Vjun, steeped in the dark side, his bladework was malice made visible - wickedness cut in red light."

Going off-topic for a moment, that raises an interesting point.

"Ventress was swinging for the girl, but the Force was strong in Scout too, in this place and hour, and her parry was there before the killing blow could fall."

At first I thought that meant Scout was able to block the attack due to them being on Vjun and that any Force-user was "amped" by being there, but on reflection you're right. A dark nexus would only be beneficial to Sith/Dark Jedi. Clearly the above line was meant figuratively.

Thanks for that.

No prob.

1: Absolute curbstomp from the Sith team.

2: A good win for the Sith team.

3: A close fight, with the Jedi maybe edging it out at the end. Not too sure about that, though. I think that the Jedi Temple might not be enough for them to defeat these two, because Obi-Wan.

Scenario 1:
Well, I'm not sure if DS nexus wont be a buff for Mace. If Mace can empower himself by DS from Vjun, he will be probably equal to empowered Count.
Anyway, Dooku and Maul have a handicap here for sure, and Kenobi will be everhelmed by anyone of them.
In that situation Kenobi is a weakest link.
If Mace wont be able to empowered himself, then the Sith will win that quite easily.

Scenario 2:
If Maul will engage Mace, Dooku will defeat Kenobi much faster, then Mace will defeat Maul. So it will be 2v1, and Sith will win.
If Mace will engage Dooku, it will be closer. But still, even if Maul wont be able to TK Kenobi, Dooku will be for sure. He has already shown, that he's able to TK Kenobi while fighting other opponent. And Kenobi probably will be focued on Maul, so it will be even easier for Dooku then it was in ROTS.

Scenario 3:
I'm not sure about Jedi Temple. Dooku was a Jedi for so long, so I'm not sure if this place will be a great disadvantage for him.

Like Petrus, I think that the Sith team will win all 3, because of Kenobi's lack of force guard.

Originally posted by Zett

I'm not sure about Jedi Temple. Dooku was a Jedi for so long, so I'm not sure if this place will be a great disadvantage for him.

Jedi Temple is on a Light Side Force Nexus.

On Vjun, Tyranus could probably just use Choke on Kenobi until he dies.

Yeah I just don't see Obi-Wan beating Maul, even in a LS nexus. He always seems to struggle greatly against him and in the end is overpowered [with the exception of that fight where he fought off both Maul and Savage, which was entirely circumstantial].

I do think that Kenobi, aided by nexus power, could beat Maul.

Maybe. Convince me. excellent

Not really sure how to form such a case. But evidently, the power radiating within the Jedi Temple is quite powerful.

Revenge of the Sith
The Jedi Temple was the greatest nexus of Force energy in the Republic; its ziggurat design focused the Force the way a lightsaber's gemstone focused its energy stream. With the thousands of Jedi and Padawans within it every day contemplating peace, seeking knowledge, and meditating on justice and surrender to the will of the Force, the Temple was a fountain of the light.

Just being on its rooftop landing deck sent a surge of power through Anakin's whole body; if the Force was ever to show him a way to change the dark future of his nightmares, it would do so here.

Considering that they're peers as swordsmen with power being Maul's ''real'' advantage, I do think that it would be reasonable to assume that inside the Temple, Maul's powers would be rather obsolete against Obi-Wan, whose physical attributes, on the other hand, would be boosted slightly beyond what Maul has shown.

So, the Temple might compare to what Malachor V is for dark siders. If this is the case, you've convinced me. To me, it depended on how truly powerful the LS nexus was, and as I've read what you provided, it's clear to me that it's importance in relevance of boosting Jedi powers is very significant. Obi-Wan possibly takes Maul. I still think it'd be after a long and hard duel doe.