Gogeta vs Vegetto

Originally posted by Galan007
a.) I don't care if it's your thread or not. You lie about events incessantly, so you are getting called out on it. Simple.

b.) That cute little clip you posted is all non-canon filler, as none of it happened in the manga.

c.) You specified on the first page that this battle is between SSJ Vegetto and SSJ Gogeta:

So the powering up thing is entirely irrelevant, as, per YOU, they both start out as Super Saiyans.

Truly, you are terrible at this.

So in fact you where lying when you said he was powered up and threw no punches before turning SS?

I'm not lying about anything

Here are the rest of the clips from the fight, read em and weep Galan.

YouTube video
YouTube video
YouTube video

Originally posted by Supra
So in fact you where lying when you said he was powered up and threw no punches before turning SS?

Originally posted by Galan007

http://imgur.com/kX7s6np
http://imgur.com/1ljpqMV
http://imgur.com/P9lBqgf

http://imgur.com/ZWXRHc9

As anyone with at least 1/8 of a brain can see: Vegetto powered up to a SSJ almost immediately-- he did NOT throw a single punch at Buuhan in his base level. The anime scenes you posted are primarily NON-CANON FILLER., and therefore inadmissible as evidence. Simple.

Again, you are terrible at this.

Originally posted by Galan007
I posted scans from the MANGA already:
But since clicking on links in order to view said scans is apparently too complex for you. Here are some pretty pictures for you to look at(you don't really even need to read the dialogue, which is a plus for you):

As anyone with at least 1/8 of a brain can see: Vegetto powered up to a SSJ almost immediately-- he did NOT throw a single punch at Buuhan in his base level. The anime scenes you posted are primarily NON-CANON FILLER., and therefore inadmissible as evidence. Simple.

Again, you are terrible at this.

I'm arguing screen feats as obvious from the beginning, if you want to bring in the rest of this stuff, there is no point in continuing this debate because they do not match up to what actually happened on screen.

So.. you'd rather argue non-canon?

Originally posted by Supra
I'm arguing screen feats as obvious from the beginning, if you want to bring in the rest of this stuff, there is no point in continuing this debate because they do not match up to what actually happened on screen.

Galan it's not fair to say some screen feats are "canon" and other that have viable feedback into a thread like this are "non-canon or fillers."

Isn't it?

Blood if you want to argue non canon I would be delighted too🙂

Originally posted by Supra
Galan it's not fair to say some screen feats are "canon" and other that have viable feedback into a thread like this are "non-canon or fillers."

Isn't it?

Blood if you want to argue non canon I would be delighted too🙂

Manga is more cannon than anime. Simple. It was written by AT, and the anime was not(completely). It's easier to distinguish manga cannon, as it's all cannon, than anime cannon, as some can be filler. However, as I stated before, going SSJ from base fusion means nothing, unless Gotenks is stronger than Gogeta AND Vegetto, since base Goten and Trunks fused into SSJ3 Gotenks.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Manga is more cannon than anime. Simple. It was written by AT, and the anime was not(completely). It's easier to distinguish manga cannon, as it's all cannon, than anime cannon, as some can be filler. However, as I stated before, going SSJ from base fusion means nothing, unless Gotenks is stronger than Gogeta AND Vegetto, since base Goten and Trunks fused into SSJ3 Gotenks.

Bro we are just going to end up fighting again and its not worth it, let's just agree to disagree ok.

Originally posted by Supra
Bro we are just going to end up fighting again and its not worth it, let's just agree to disagree ok.

I'm not, nor will ever/have ever be/been your "bro".

There is nothing to agree or disagree about, it is simple factual CANNON, that you are COMPLETELY ignoring, which makes you look like a ****ing dumb ass.

Old Kai stated Vegetto was superior. Clear, cut, end of discussion, and you only avoided the debate because you KNOW this, and are too much of a retard fanboy to admit that your favorite character LOSES. Vegetto wins. That's all folks.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I'm not, nor will ever/have ever be/been your "bro".

There is nothing to agree or disagree about, it is simple factual CANNON, that you are COMPLETELY ignoring, which makes you look like a ****ing dumb ass.

Old Kai stated Vegetto was superior. Clear, cut, end of discussion, and you only avoided the debate because you KNOW this, and are too much of a retard fanboy to admit that your favorite character LOSES. Vegetto wins. That's all folks.

Well Imp can handle this, your not worth my time.

The next person that bashes gets a three day ban.

STOP. THE NAME CALLING.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Manga is more cannon than anime. Simple. It was written by AT, and the anime was not(completely). It's easier to distinguish manga cannon, as it's all cannon, than anime cannon, as some can be filler. However, as I stated before, going SSJ from base fusion means nothing, unless Gotenks is stronger than Gogeta AND Vegetto, since base Goten and Trunks fused into SSJ3 Gotenks.

Your going to sit here and say some of DBZ timeline is cannon and some of it is non cannon.

Then your going to argue that SS Gogeta was not the most powerful warrior ever created who has far better feats the Super Vegetto?

Ok Why did you name yourself SS Gogeta then, its mind boggling.

Because he likes the name Gogeta more than Vegeto. His name doesn't matter at all.

And yes the manga is more canon than the anime as that is the original source. And in the manga Vegeto show he doesn't have to waste time getting used to his body or waiting to power up.

Mind you none of this truly matters. Since you've started both of them in Super Saiyan then it doesn't matter. And Super Saiyan or not Vegeto in his base utterly outclassed a character who is more impressive than Janemba.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Because he likes the name Gogeta more than Vegeto. His name doesn't matter at all.

And yes the manga is more canon than the anime as that is the original source. And in the manga Vegeto show he doesn't have to waste time getting used to his body or waiting to power up.

Mind you none of this truly matters. Since you've started both of them in Super Saiyan then it doesn't matter. And Super Saiyan or not Vegeto in his base utterly outclassed a character who is more impressive than Janemba.

Where are the feats proving he is above Gogeta. Please show them.

Janemba's greatest claim to fame is beating up SSJ 3 Goku.

Ultimate Gohan, or Mystic Gohan if you prefer, is the strongest unfused character in DBZ and he is a portion of the Buu that Vegeto outclassed in every way.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Janemba's greatest claim to fame is beating up SSJ 3 Goku.

Ultimate Gohan, or Mystic Gohan if you prefer, is the strongest unfused character in DBZ and he is a portion of the Buu that Vegeto outclassed in every way.

Just like Buu shit on SS3 Goku. SS3 Goku gets the crap beat out of him every time. Its a worthless transformation.

Originally posted by Supra
Just like Buu shit on SS3 Goku. SS3 Goku gets the crap beat out of him every time. Its a worthless transformation.

@ Supra: Gogeta has no feats other than beating Janemba. Janemba barely beat Goku, who was weaker than Buutenks, who was much weaker than Buuhan, who got shat on by Vegetto. Vegetto has better feats, AND is stated to be superior to Gogeta. There's not even anything to argue.

My name has nothing to do with this. It's not a matter of perspective. Old Kai STATED Vegetto was superior because he didn't have a time limit, so... he is. I just happen to like Gogeta better. Just like I like Naruto much more than I like Yamcha, but know that in a fight, Yamcha would blow up Naruto's entire planet, if he didn't want to solo the entire cast of Naruto(which he easily could). If I named myself Narutosomethin'orother, I wouldn't argue that Naruto would beat Goku, lol. It's simple, clear logic. Gogeta loses. Vegetto wins.

Yes, some of DBZ isn't cannon. Just like the Garlic Jr. saga, or when Goku got hurt from Krillin tossing a rock at him as a SSJ, or when Goku said IT was light speed. All that's in the manga though, IS cannon. It's very simple.

Also, SSJ3 is in no way, shape or form "useless". Without it, Goku would have lost to kid Buu and not weakened him enough to hit him with a spirit bomb, OR been able to stall fat Buu while Trunks found the radar, AND Gotenks would have been easily killed by Super Buu and the world would have been destroyed along with Dende. How can you even say that a transformation that gives you a 2,500 times boost is useless?

@ AuraAngel: Thank you! Finally, someone other than me explains to him that my username has nothing to do with this!

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
@ Supra: Gogeta has no feats other than beating Janemba. Janemba barely beat Goku, who was weaker than Buutenks, who was much weaker than Buuhan, who got shat on by Vegetto. Vegetto has better feats, AND is stated to be superior to Gogeta. There's not even anything to argue.

My name has nothing to do with this. It's not a matter of perspective. Old Kai STATED Vegetto was superior because he didn't have a time limit, so... he is. I just happen to like Gogeta better. Just like I like Naruto much more than I like Yamcha, but know that in a fight, Yamcha would blow up Naruto's entire planet, if he didn't want to solo the entire cast of Naruto(which he easily could). If I named myself Narutosomethin'orother, I wouldn't argue that Naruto would beat Goku, lol. It's simple, clear logic. Gogeta loses. Vegetto wins.

Yes, some of DBZ isn't cannon. Just like the Garlic Jr. saga, or when Goku got hurt from Krillin tossing a rock at him as a SSJ, or when Goku said IT was light speed. All that's in the manga though, IS cannon. It's very simple.

Also, SSJ3 is in no way, shape or form "useless". Without it, Goku would have lost to kid Buu and not weakened him enough to hit him with a spirit bomb, OR been able to stall fat Buu while Trunks found the radar, AND Gotenks would have been easily killed by Super Buu and the world would have been destroyed along with Dende. How can you even say that a transformation that gives you a 2,500 times boost is useless?

@ AuraAngel: Thank you! Finally, someone other than me explains to him that my username has nothing to do with this!

Kai's have been proven they no nothing about the Saijen and constantly wrong about them. Their word is a solid as Chi Chi's understanding of a Super Saijen.

Originally posted by Supra
Kai's have been proven they no nothing about the Saijen and constantly wrong about them. Their word is a solid as Chi Chi's understanding of a Super Saijen.

But they know their fusions as Old Kai is a Potara fused character.

Not that we really need the Old Kai's words. If it's by feats Vegeto still wins by virtue of a) his fight being longer so he gets more feats, b) his opponent is stronger and by feats that is more impressive, and c) he proved he could probably have beaten Buuhan in base in the anime which means his Super Saiyan form in this thread is hella powerful.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
But they know their fusions as Old Kai is a Potara fused character.

Not that we really need the Old Kai's words. If it's by feats Goku still wins by virtue of a) his fight being longer so he gets more feats, b) his opponent is stronger and by feats that is more impressive, and c) he proved he could probably have beaten Buuhan in base in the anime which means his Super Saiyan form in this thread is hella powerful.

So two stupid Kai's who can't even defend their own realm's fuse and become an even stupider Kai who's more worthless then prior two and we are just supposed to take their word for it?

Point in proof, they said the fusion was permeant and it could never be reversed till they saw a higher power could undo what they thought could never be undone.

SS Gogeta is superior in every way, shape and form.