Originally posted by Galan007
Definitely possible. Either way he didn't have the full power of the Presence when he was beaten... Technically, at least.I can't stand when the companies go through all the trouble of gaining 'teh God-powa!' just to have them be defeated... By themselves... Subconsciously. ElOhEl.
😂 ....Still, it's always nice to have a significant event.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Scans?
DC writers have been shown on panel acting as God just as there are scans of what appears to be Jack Kirby as Marvel's God. In the cosmology of both, all creation was originally created by the Presence/TOAA, thus making them mediums for the stories that followed.
Originally posted by CogitoThe Presence was created by the writers (as was TOAA, if we're being truthful) to be omnipotent within the writers' creation. I'm not going to pull out scans because that's just a waste of time.
TOAA (the character) is of course a drawing, imagined by writers.
But this character (TOAA) is portrayed as a literal fictional representation of humans from our real world (writers/artists)
playing the role of the ultimate "god" in a comic book. (sensibly, the Writers/Artists who make everything)
This character (TOAA) highlights info that relates to the real world,
it knows it's nothing more than a representative finite human mind, instead of the
Presence who thinks its a god, in heaven, eternal, with angels flying around and whatnot.
I know the Presence knows there's something greater than itself,
but it's clueless about what that is from what I know.
^^ 😐
That's the scan I was talking about. The Presence knows there's something above him.
I don't see anyone in the scan saying/knowing what that is though.
.... "forces external?" ... Can mean anything.
Anyway imo, this is nothing like TOAA, or DC's true supreme beings (Morrison/Carlin avatar and such-types)
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ 😐That's the scan I was talking about. The Presence knows there's something above him.
I don't see anyone in the scan saying/knowing what that is though.
He pretty much flat out said he knew what those forces (the writers) were. With that scan, how could you possibly think he doesn't know?
Originally posted by CogitoHe pretty much flat out said he knew what those forces (the writers) were. With that scan, how could you possibly think he doesn't know?
We may postulate he's referring to the "writers"
but he could just as easily be referring to something else.
(he's not speaking in a 4th wall tone on top of being vague)
DC's Morrison/Carlin avatars were portrayed as counterparts to TOAA.
TOAA (artist) was on the phone with his other half (writer)
discussing Black Panther and Silver Surfer real world comic books.
The Artist told the FF he doesn't know what's gpnna happen next until the writer tells him. (like a real human)
That's what I'm talking about, that's a 4th wall "god-like" tone.
(ps. She-Hulk and Mxy (amongst others) are 4th wall masters but in a goofy depiction)