The Mandarin vs Red Skull

If there were no heroes or bigger threats like Doctor Doom or Magneto around to stop them, which of these tyrants would take over Marvel Earth the fastest?

Skrull...mandarin isn't a planetary threat imo

Yes he is.

Before I get refuted, I would like to post these (thanks for the scans Rage).

All of this was done with ONE RING. Mandarin is most def Herald level. Probably high Herald.

Thing is The Mandarin is dead.

Carver, would you please stop throwing around the words high heralds so easily?

Red Skull mindrapes. He's overall more dangerous than Mandarin, tough infinitely weaker on the get to go.

Lol @ carver she's high meta at best and nothing in those scans suggest otherwise. High herald ha!

Yeah...Skull stomps this. Nothing in those scans suggest high herald, or planetary level power. At best, what we saw in those rings is Nova level. And not Worldmind Nova Prime level, but 80's Nova level.

Skull wins the thread

The Mandarin would conquer the world faster. He's smarter, has better tech, has his own mini-nation, just operates on another level.

Originally posted by VanMae
The Mandarin would conquer the world faster. He's smarter, has better tech, has his own mini-nation, just operates on another level.

By most logical means Mandarin should be able to conquer the world more easily, comics prove otherwise though. Johan is like a Cosmic Cube magnet.

Lol at his own mini nation

he doesn't anymore, Stark is fixing the place up.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Thing is The Mandarin is dead.

We don't know for sure if he's permanently dead.There were 2 scenarios were Mandarin was portrayed dead.In the Avengers Annual were he was exposed to the vacuum of space.But he was portrayed alive in later issues.And one were he died at Yellow Claw's hands, but came back when Yellow Claw's minion tried to use his rings.So who knows when will Mandarin come back.

Mandy. Skull is a nazi and nazis always fail.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Mandy. Skull is a nazi and nazis always fail.

😂 He can't even handle a simpleton with a shield(From Captain America:The First Avenger) 😄

Originally posted by Igniz
We don't know for sure if he's permanently dead.There were 2 scenarios were Mandarin was portrayed dead.In the Avengers Annual were he was exposed to the vacuum of space.But he was portrayed alive in later issues.And one were he died at Yellow Claw's hands, but came back when Yellow Claw's minion tried to use his rings.So who knows when will Mandarin come back.

Well supposedly he died in Matt Fractions run from what i've read.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Skrull...mandarin isn't a planetary threat imo

Nice typo here 😂

Yes, Skull usually is a bigger threat because of stuff like stealing the Cosmic Cube.

That's a bit like saying Joker will win because he will con Mxyptlk into giving him omnipotence again.

On an average day, the Mandarin has every advantage on Skull, better tech, more resources, just on another level entirely.

Originally posted by VanMae
That's a bit like saying Joker will win because he will con Mxyptlk into giving him omnipotence again.

On an average day, the Mandarin has every advantage on Skull, better tech, more resources, just on another level entirely.

Xavier level telepathy?