American Psycho

Great movie. 8 out of 10.

It was too pretentious at times, though. However, I forgave the movie of that because it was specifically supposed to be pretentious as it represented the Wallstreet Elite, their petty ideals, and their superficial world views.

The most unintentionally funny part of the movie was the business cards. I am positive it wasn't supposed to be funny but every single time that shit started, I laughed.

But, I need some help with the ending.

Did Patrick Batemen (Batman's character) really kill all of those people or did he imagine it? If he killed them all, there are lots of clues that point towards everyone covering up his messes especially the part about his lawyer pretending nothing happened and his confession was just a joke (and the lawyer's cover up of Paul Allen's death (played by Jared Leto) tells me that Patrick really did kill quite a few people.

The author of the book specifically made it ambiguous and was furious about a particular line in the film (because she aid it ruined that part and made it not ambiguous). **** that author for wanting shit to be ambiguous. Write a complete story, a*****e. The film could have been a 9 had the movie had a real ending and not the cop-out waaay over done bullshit about it all being a dream or the main character is crazy and imagined shit.

Sometimes, the acting was horrible: atrocious even. Other times, it was pretty damn good.

Some of the cinematography was superb but most of the time it was bland.

The music was very meh but the use of pop-music was apt.

Some of the humor, when intentional, was pretty good.

I think this movie suffers from having near perfect parts and then crappy parts edited together.

The movie is a watch once but is definitely a film everyone that loves movies should watch once. I would probably watch it again if I was with a group of people and someone wanted to watch it.

Edit - I can't believe how great of shape Christian Bale got into for this film. That's pretty dang amazing, really...especially when you look at him just a few years later in The Machinist.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Great movie. 8 out of 10.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Can you give your different sub-ratings?

I gave 4 out of the list but some of those items do not even apply. Also, the rating list needs to be updated.

Edit - But here is the list:

Color: C 75
Lighting: C 75
(Optional)3D Effect: ?
CGI Animation/Visual Effects: D 65
Sound: B 85
Music: B+ 88

Score out of 5 categories due to area 3 not being counted: 388

Story: A 95
Acting: B 85
Character development: B 85
Character Interaction: B+ 88
Character realism: B 85
Emotional Impact of the film: A 95

Score out of 6 categories: 533

Setting: A- 92
Innovation: C 75
Fictional Tech in the movie (optional and usually applies to Sci-Fi): ?
Unique Flora and Fauna (optional and usually applies to Sci-Fi): ?
Wow Factor: B- 82
Camera Angles/Use/choreography: B- 82
Re-watchability: C 75
Rating of 5 areas: 406

((406/5)+(533/6)+(388/5))/3 = 82.54 which is a low b which means it is generally not rewatchable.

I'm pretty sure one of the themes of the movie is that no one pays attention to other people. They're all completely self-absorbed. No one listens to Patrick when he talks about killing, everyone mixes names up, that sort of thing. I think Bateman imagined everything. The ending suggests that it's all in his head and you can see how ridiculous his fantasies are getting when he starts blowing up cars with a single shot from his gun and how he can go on a killing spree and not get into trouble. Whether it was real or not, I think Patrick Bateman was just crying out for help in his own way, but no one noticed him, not his friends, not his girlfriend, not his colleagues.

He shot several times to blow up the car.

But, yes, all that evidence in his building and apartment would have given him away, me thinks. Especially when the hooker was banging on all those doors for help. Someone would have noticed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
He shot several times to blow up the car.

But, yes, all that evidence in his building and apartment would have given him away, me thinks. Especially when the hooker was banging on all those doors for help. Someone would have noticed.

It's still unrealistic. Bateman even looks at his gun in disbelief.

That plus a lot of other things like the drawings his secretary found point to it all being a fantasy.

Not all of it necessarily has to be a fantasy, I favor the interpretation that most or all of the murders happen, but not necessarily when or how we see.

Originally posted by dadudemon

The most unintentionally funny part of the movie was the business cards. I am positive it wasn't supposed to be funny but every single time that shit started, I laughed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Great movie. 8 out of 10.

Why in the **** did you wait 14 years to see this. What an *******.

Ha, I own a copy of this. Keep forgetting to watch it.

I didn't think anything special of the movie or the novel for that matter.

If it was remade today, straight to dvd, it could be as graphic as the novel & no one would blink twice...considering the amount of "torture porn" movies on the shelves these days.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That part was intended to be funny, ******.

I disagree. I think it was supposed to show how petty and shallow they all were but it came off as funny for me.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why in the **** did you wait 14 years to see this. What an *******.

Because it came out in 2000 and in 2000 I was literally too young to see it in the theater. I did not know it was considered a cult classic until around 2006 and I had far more important things to do in 2006 like how important breasts and vaginas were.

It wasn't until it became available on Netflix, quite recently, that was reminded to see it again.

I think the official explanation is that he wasn't taking his medication - and so the thoughts inside his head became full-on delusions and hallucinations. When he calls his lawyer from the payphone, you can see him downing a mouthful of pills.

Also, the scene where the detective goes to see Bateman for the second time, they actually did three takes - one with Willem Dafoe acting as if he knew Bateman was innocent, one where Willem Dafoe knew Bateman was guilty, and a last one where Willem Dafoe acted as if he was covering a regular suspect. Then they edited all of them together.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Also, the scene where the detective goes to see Bateman for the second time, they actually did three takes - one with Willem Dafoe acting as if he knew Bateman was innocent, one where Willem Dafoe knew Bateman was guilty, and a last one where Willem Dafoe acted as if he was covering a regular suspect. Then they edited all of them together.

Holy shit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree. I think it was supposed to show how petty and shallow they all were but it came off as funny for me.

Great movie, was it all real or a dream, I could never tell.

8/10 is a great movie in my book. 👆

If you get the chance you should read the book and it's (sort of) follow up, lunar park, which is a fictional autobiography where the murders in American Psycho, including a never published draft, start happening in Brett Easton Ellis' fictional version of his own life and the killings are investigated by the detective from American Psycho. Mind bending stuff.

Incidentally you wondered if the humour in the business card scene was deliberate. The film is a very dark, black comedy. They had to make it that way cos the book was completely unfilmable. The prostitute killings in the book are horrendous. Like a scene where he stuffs cheese and broken glass up a hookers **** then tries to jam a tube up her but can't so he melts her **** with acid before forcing it in her then gets a rat he's been starving to run up inside her before he pulls the tube out. He watches her squirm (she's been nailed to the floor with a nail gun at this point) before getting bored and chainsaws her in half. The rat somehow survives this and crawls out her torso before he stamps it to death.

All good fun stuff.

Originally posted by Supra
Great movie, was it all real or a dream, I could never tell.

Patrick tried multiple times to tell people the truth about himself, but nobody believed him. He is "cursed" with the inability to tell people about himself.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree. I think it was supposed to show how petty and shallow they all were but it came off as funny for me.

That WAS the intention of the movie. The entire point of American Psycho is that most people in the 80s were self absorbed assholes.