Hypothetically Supernatual

Started by Stealth Moose3 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus was a great teacher. He was not superman or the son of god. The miracles were added a long after his death.

Considering no sources other than the much-later compiled Bible relate his miracles, this seems to be the case.

Re: Hypothetically Supernatual

Originally posted by Supra
If Jesus or an Angel of the Lord showed up and performed a miracle right in front of you. Say you had a deadly ill friend or family member. And you took him to see your loved on and healed him, would you believe in the Power of God and if you didn't what would you call what you just witnessed.

I had a similar discussion with both inimalist (Oliver North) and Digi.

Essentially, the problem still remains as Shakyamunison put it: how is that person to know that the being performing that miracle is of Divine (capital D, yo) origin or is that alien just super advanced? My response is, essentially, that we have eternal souls that are supernatural and immutable and God can communicate to us through our souls. God will tell us if something is Divine.

Originally posted by Firefly218
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Science is right regardless of morality. Science is fact. While morality is awesome, it is human made. Morality is not a natural law of the universe.

I think you're putting science on a pedestal that it cannot live up to. You're elevating science into this omniscient entity ...

It's as if you're...

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Science gives us the closest thing we can have to objective fact...

hmm

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Just because someone or something has supernatural powers and can perform 'miracles' doesn't make them a God or worthy of worship. I would recognise their power and maybe try to become super best friends with them but thats about it.

That's essentially what many Christian people teach: become super best friends with God.

I don't make friends with people on my knees.

Oh, who am I kidding!

But yeah, I don't worship my friends and do whatever they tell me to.

Originally posted by Nephthys
...I don't worship my friends and do whatever they tell me to.

If you had seemingly supernatural powers, knowledge and wisdom beyond my ability to comprehend, and promoted a system of genuine benevolence, I'd definitely do whatever you told me and I would probably worship you...sort of. I wouldn't pray to you: I'd just talk to you.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus was a great teacher. He was not superman or the son of god. The miracles were added a long after his death.

However Superman was written by two Jewish men, and the story of superman closely follows Christ's

Originally posted by Supra
However Superman was written by two Jewish men, and the story of superman closely follows Christ's

I can see that. The idea of a savor is a very old one, but it is only an idea.

Why do we need a savor? I know the answer; because Adam sinned when he ate from the tree of knowledge. However, the story of Adam and Eve is not real. It is a story, not a history.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I can see that. The idea of a savor is a very old one, but it is only an idea.

Why do we need a savor? I know the answer; because Adam sinned when he ate from the tree of knowledge. However, the story of Adam and Eve is not real. It is a story, not a history.

I still don't know enough about Buddhism to debate with you on self preservation vs Godly forgiveness.

dadudeman, what's more objective? Scientific method, with peer review, or Bible study?

Originally posted by Supra
I still don't know enough about Buddhism to debate with you on self preservation vs Godly forgiveness.

I'm not talking about Buddhism. I'm talking about Christianity.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't make friends with people on my knees.

Oh, who am I kidding!

But yeah, I don't worship my friends and do whatever they tell me to.

I think this is an oral sex joke...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm not talking about Buddhism. I'm talking about Christianity.

Oh ok.

Originally posted by Supra
Oh ok.

Let me guess; you don't know enough about Christianity to be able to comment on what I said above. No problem. 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Let me guess; you don't know enough about Christianity to be able to comment on what I said above. No problem. 😄
Remember: just assume he's illiterate.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Remember: just assume he's illiterate.

Roger that...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Let me guess; you don't know enough about Christianity to be able to comment on what I said above. No problem. 😄

I just woke up man🙂 Not ready to talk about it 😛

Originally posted by Supra
I just woke up man🙂 Not ready to talk about it 😛

No problem. 😉