Spiderman vs Cyclops

Are you really saying that a bloodlusted cyke going for the kill with no visor doing a GOML blast can't hit spiderman? Really? Again, how does he dodge the blasts shown in this thread and astonishing x-men? Please answer that question.

What about the width of the blasts I mentioned? Please answer that. And yeah Spider-Mans only much faster in every way...so ridiculous, right? I hate when people use the whole pleading absurdity bit instead of just plain ole fashioned logical debate.

namorsubby, is being wrong all the time are your special super powers?

could he jump over it?

Originally posted by red sabre
namorsubby, is being wrong all the time are your special super powers?

The blasts are pure kinetic energy right? Would that mean someone who has mastery over kinetic force/energy would be able to manipulate Scotts beams?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
could he jump over it?

No

Givving the starting distance 1/2 km SM might be able sneak up on Cyke but that's a very slim chance and if Cyke does go GOML off the bat Pete is most definitely $&@$ed but it's not in his character. So CIS on Pete wins. CIS off Cyke wins.

As I said before, Cyke does seem able to control the size of his blasts at least a bit when his visor is off. He has his visor knocked off a lot and it doesn't resemble the GOML blast. That seems to be something that happens when he wants it to. Hence, Cyke wins if he uses the GOML blast. He won't use it though, so spidey wins if they are in character.

I'd consider that GOML blast inconsistent with the others. It's much wider. It's not even a beam really. Definitely unusual.

Originally posted by emporerpants
As I said before, Cyke does seem able to control the size of his blasts at least a bit when his visor is off. He has his visor knocked off a lot and it doesn't resemble the GOML blast. That seems to be something that happens when he wants it to. Hence, Cyke wins if he uses the GOML blast. He won't use it though, so spidey wins if they are in character.

Cyclops controls the width/height and intensity of his blasts with his visor off just fine. He just can't turn them off.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I'd consider that GOML blast inconsistent with the others. It's much wider. It's not even a beam really. Definitely unusual.

It's still consistent with the GOML blast against the Sentinel early on.

What it's not consistent with is the kind of bullshit writing we saw in the WWH arc where apparently he can go full power even though the visor specifically stops that from happening.

Atm current clops is broken and pete/otto wins rather convincingly.

Also pr's right. Just because he's taken off the glasses doesnt mean the whole panel goes red wall of death.

Also before anyone insist spidey is just way too fast for scott to tag, he already got tagged in x-sanction.... So there.

I know. He's still too fast. CIS on (as in no GOML) SM takes it.

I don't think he's too fast, especially in a featureless environment.

He can still web him though, so there's that.

To me that GOML blast looked like he was radiating kinetic energy out from his eyes in all directions. I've gotten the impression from every other instance of him displaying his power that it was a BEAM of concussive force in the form of kinetic energy. I'd assume that controlling the width of the beam doesn't change its properties altogether.

Originally posted by namorsubby
To me that GOML blast looked like he was radiating kinetic energy out from his eyes in all directions. I've gotten the impression from every other instance of him displaying his power that it was a BEAM of concussive force in the form of kinetic energy. I'd assume that controlling the width of the beam doesn't change its properties altogether.

It's more a cone than a beam at full, unhindered power.

What about the other contradictory depictions of the "GOML blasts" as simply a wider beam?

Originally posted by namorsubby
What about the other contradictory depictions of the "GOML blasts" as simply a wider beam?

Cyclops is able to do....different beams? He (was) pretty skilled.

Also, his optic blasts travel at lightspeed.