Is this Darkseid from the elseworld story JLA: The Nail/Another Nail (going by the scan)? With his armor drawing power from the omega doom device (which can destroy a galaxy and increase his power dramatically as a result), he's significantly above his standard version.
And is this the What If version of Set? (makes difference).
Although, Shattered God shouldn't be here. He's above everyone else.
Originally posted by operator616See, I have a different opinion regarding Shattered God...
Although, Shattered God shouldn't be here. He's above everyone else.
He evidently was the void that existed before creation(basically what Nekron is now.) However, when creation was birthed, SG attempted to impose his own type of control over it, and was blown apart into trillionS of sentient pieces in the process:
http://imgur.com/BdOhVsL
After eons passed and SG had finally pulled himself back together, he sought to return the universe back to it's void state, but he couldn't do this on his own--he needed Dianna's unique link to the mortal and divine realms:
http://imgur.com/jb8xLO7
http://imgur.com/3NJ5w19
After possessing Dianna, SG began restarting existence(or so he thought):
http://imgur.com/yNmtbx6
http://imgur.com/XaEVQtm
However, Dianna was able to prevent him from making any alterations to the universe:
http://imgur.com/CWaWv97
And SG was ultimately blown(back) to trillionS of pieces when Zeus blasted him with the cumulative energies he'd collected from all the Godheads:
http://imgur.com/RjmMHdh
http://imgur.com/r1KsXdb
http://imgur.com/fhcaMem
Not saying any one being on the Marvel side can defeat him, mind you. I just have never really thought of him as *that* powerful, all things considered. /shrug
^ He only needed Diana to resurrect his complete form, though.
The implication regarding his universal power was pretty clear if you ask me. He was certainly capable of remaking creation, he was right there at the center of the universe with Oa and planets surrounding him, recreating existence.
Shattered God actually did create a universal-wide shockwave, as shown here:
http://i.imgur.com/6ljSpKv.jpg
It just didn't alter the universe. Of course, Simonson couldn't have SG recreate the entire DCU, so he had Diana pull off the hero move. But it was made clear that SG could, when they had him at the center of the universe, dwarfing planets, and creating a shock-wave throughout the universe.
Not to mention that earlier in the story, Ganthet said that SG's power dwarfs anything he's ever seen:
http://i.imgur.com/FQ3On5R.jpg
Also, i think that SG getting shattered by the collective power of the Godheads is acceptable....it's not a bad showing, imo. Not to mention that SG even stated that his power grows with each second (meaning he was not at full power).
You may have also misunderstood me. I never intended to say that SG solos the entire Marvel team, just that he tips the battle in DC's favor by quite a bit (he's above the Skfayther tier).
Originally posted by operator616It was made clear that without Dianna as his 'host', SG wouldn't have been able to begin restarting the universe in the first place. That's all I was getting at.
^ He only needed Diana to resurrect his complete form, though.
Originally posted by operator616I agree... But again: he needed Dianna.
The implication regarding his universal power was pretty clear if you ask me. He was certainly capable of remaking creation, he was right there at the center of the universe with Oa and planets surrounding him, recreating existence.
Originally posted by operator616Not sure why you think this is universe-wide..?
Shattered God actually did create a universal-wide shockwave, as shown here:
Originally posted by operator616Not arguing what he started doing. Just saying that Dianna was the key--before merging with her, he wasn't able to do much at all.
It just didn't alter the universe. Of course, Simonson couldn't have SG recreate the entire DCU, so he had Diana pull off the hero move. But it was made clear that SG could, when they had him at the center of the universe, dwarfing planets, and creating a shock-wave throughout the universe.
Originally posted by operator616LIES!
Not to mention that earlier in the story, Ganthet said that SG's power dwarfs anything he's ever seen:
Ganthet has seen the creation event. As was made clear in that story, the creation event>>>SG.
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Originally posted by operator616Never said that was a low showing. Just felt his defeat was pertinent to the general discussion.
Also, i think that SG getting shattered by the collective power of the Godheads is acceptable....it's not a bad showing, imo. Not to mention that SG even stated that his power grows with each second (meaning he was not at full power).
Originally posted by operator616Oh, I agree he's powerful(never said otherwise.) I just think he tends to be overhyped.
You may have also misunderstood me. I never intended to say that SG solos the entire Marvel team, just that he tips the battle in DC's favor by quite a bit (he's above the Skfayther tier).
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2 of the most knowledgeable posters on the boards. Operator came out of nowhere and deserves Rookie of the year. Or new poster of the year. He actually posts scans and knows what he's talking about. Galan is a veteran, though, so he can easily hold his own.
This is operators entrance. 😂
Originally posted by Galan007
It was made clear that without Dianna as his 'host', SG wouldn't have been able to begin restarting the universe in the first place. That's all I was getting at.I agree... But again: he needed Dianna.
Yeah, but he needed Diana to regain his full power/form, only (it's not like she amped him or anything)
Originally posted by Galan007
Not sure why you think this is universe-wide..?
Because directly after that explosion/shockwave, SG says:
http://i.imgur.com/SXAEguj.jpg?1
"What's this? the planet still exists? ...the galaxies, the universe remain unaltered"
Indicating that they should have been altered in that shockwave had it been not for Diana. The shock-wave was universe-wide but it didn't have any effects, is all.
And that proves that SG could have restarted the universe had it not been for the plot/Diana.
Originally posted by Galan007
Not arguing what he started doing. Just saying that Dianna was the key--before merging with her, he wasn't able to do much at all.
As he said: He needed her just to give himself form and substance in this time and space:
http://i.imgur.com/lkDyKSK.jpg?1
Remaking the universe was all his power.
Originally posted by Galan007
Oh, I agree he's powerful(never said otherwise.) I just think he tends to be overhyped.
Don't think he's overhyped. He was a legit universal being existing before the big bang (as you said/posted yourself), that also speaks volumes about what level he's supposed to operate at.
Originally posted by operator616I said nothing about Dianna amping him. I said that without her, SG was unable to do much of anything... Which is 100% accurate.
Yeah, but he needed Diana to regain his full power/form, only (it's not like she amped him or anything)
Originally posted by operator616I think you're reading into it too much. In this case I think SG was simply shocked that the blast he released didn't alter anything at all--not so much as a single world. I don't think it was universal... But that's neither here nor there, and entirely irrelevant to anything I've said. I'm not arguing SG's *potential*(because he never actually achieved it) universal power. Just pointing out that nothing he did would have been possible without Dianna.
Because directly after that explosion/shockwave, SG says:http://i.imgur.com/SXAEguj.jpg?1
"What's this? the planet still exists? ...the galaxies, the universe remain unaltered"
Indicating that they should have been altered in that shockwave had it been not for Diana. The shock-wave was universe-wide but it didn't have any effects, is all.
And that proves that SG could have restarted the universe had it not been for the plot/Diana.
Originally posted by operator616See my first post.
As he said: He needed her just to give himself form and substance in this time and space:http://i.imgur.com/lkDyKSK.jpg?1
Remaking the universe was all his power.
Originally posted by operator616...Who was destroyed the first time when he tried mucking with the newborn universe, and was unable to overcome Dianna's spirit/will when he attempted to unmake the universe a second time. He had 2 shots at destroying the universe, and failed miserably both times. That's why I think he's overhyped.
Don't think he's overhyped. He was a legit universal being existing before the big bang (as you said/posted yourself), that also speaks volumes about what level he's supposed to operate at.
I can agree that he was a *potential* universal power, though, and certainly above a Skyfather.
Originally posted by carver9😂
I'm loving this. Galan vs Operator. Keep it going. You better not lose Galan.
operator and myself have had several discussions like this. It's not really us debating one another so much as merely stating why we feel the way we do about a particular topic, and leaving it at that.
It'd be nice if all discussions were as civil.
Originally posted by Golgo13
✅2 of the most knowledgeable posters on the boards. Operator came out of nowhere and deserves Rookie of the year. Or new poster of the year. He actually posts scans and knows what he's talking about. Galan is a veteran, though, so he can easily hold his own.
This is operators entrance.
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I appreciate the compliment, friend. 🙂
