This version of Asura/Ryu/Akuma vs Bleach verse

Started by SSJGGogeta2 pages

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yama's bankai is nowhere near energetic enough to harm any character here

You have them placed in an illusion, great, how the **** do you kill him? Given the shockwaves from their punches are capable of pulverising them

Not to mention they vastly outclass the ****ers in speed by a colossal margain

Again, they would be caught in Aizen's shikai. While this won't kill them, and Aizen couldn't do so either, Yamamoto's bankai could. Unless they could withstand the temperature of the core of the sun, they would get vaporized. BTW, I still don't know too much about them, so if they have ever demonstrated the ability to do so, or even been stated to do something comparable, just show proof and I'll submit. 👆

Assuming that Aizen can pull it off before Asura pelvic thrusts from many kms away and atomises Aizen amirite?

A star is so energetic becuse of it's mass. It's core heated to 15 million degrees on average generates 90 petatons of energy every second. Something Yamamato's size would require several billion times less energy to maintain. Temperature matters not, quantity does when it comes to offensive power

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Assuming that Aizen can pull it off before Asura pelvic thrusts from many kms away and atomises Aizen amirite?

A star is so energetic becuse of it's mass. It's core heated to 15 million degrees on average generates 90 petatons of energy every second. Something Yamamato's size would require several billion times less energy to maintain. Temperature matters not, quantity does when it comes to offensive power

How fast are they again? IIRC, Aizen is at least mach 500 with just his normal speed, let alone Shunpo. I guarantee that he would at least have time to unsheathe his sword against them.

Again, can either of them survive being in contact with temperatures equal to that of the suns core? For even an instant? If not, then just quite fanboy-ing the shit out of them and admit they lose. This has nothing to do with how much energy it takes to generate his bankai, and pointing so out makes you look like ignorant.

Where has Aizen ever moved at mach 500?

More to the point, Asura in his second form and anyone at or above that level of speed (Both Ryu and Akuma count) are nearly mach 20,000, since they can do cool things like fly from the moon to the Earth in thirty seconds. That's only movement.

In reaction-time, everyone here is FTL (Not sure how much).

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
How fast are they again? IIRC, Aizen is at least mach 500 with just his normal speed, let alone Shunpo. I guarantee that he would at least have time to unsheathe his sword against them.

Again, can either of them survive being in contact with temperatures equal to that of the suns core? For even an instant? If not, then just quite fanboy-ing the shit out of them and admit they lose. This has nothing to do with how much energy it takes to generate his bankai, and pointing so out makes you look like ignorant.

At least sub-relativistic with 4c reactions/attack speed, and no, Aizen is only at Mach 23, Gin lied about the Mach 500 shit (I'm assuming we're not doing Destructor Asura or anything above, since he can destroy stars with his punches and shit)

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19556

Yes, because durability is not split and heat/energy/vaporisation isn't hax. It requires energy to burn/melt/vape stuff and unless you can show Yama's heat doing anything above megaton level, his energy is so ****ing pithy it's not even worth mentioning here

Yeah it does, unless Yama's bankai can ignore durability in some fashion, then he lacks the energy capable of harming any ****er here

Originally posted by StealthRanger
At least sub-relativistic with 4c reactions/attack speed, and no, Aizen is only at Mach 23, Gin lied about the Mach 500 shit (I'm assuming we're not doing Destructor Asura or anything above, since he can destroy stars with his punches and shit)

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19556

Yes, because durability is not split and heat/energy/vaporisation isn't hax. It requires energy to burn/melt/vape stuff and unless you can show Yama's heat doing anything above megaton level, his energy is so ****ing pithy it's not even worth mentioning here

Yeah it does, unless Yama's bankai can ignore durability in some fashion, then he lacks the energy capable of harming any ****er here

Show where it has ONCE been stated that Gin's bankai doesn't move at mach 500. I can show where it has been stated that it DOES. Aizen easily dodged his bankai also, which at least makes his reaction speed mach 500+. 😉

Once again, it has nothing to do with his energy. What about that don't you understand? Anyone here being in contact with the suns core temperature for a single second would be completely atomized. They have no feats or statements to suggest otherwise. I'm not arguing that Yamamoto has enough energy to perform a star busting kamehameha wave, I'm arguing that he can produce temperatures high enough to melt characters in DB up to Master Roshi... making Asura, Ryu and Akuma fodder. 👆

Again, let me stress that I'm aware the Bleach characters are physically RAPED by these three, but they still have nothing to counter Yama's bankai.

Did you just imply Asura was fodder compared to Master Roshi?

😂

Gin himself said he was lying.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Show where it has ONCE been stated that Gin's bankai doesn't move at mach 500. I can show where it has been stated that it DOES. Aizen easily dodged his bankai also, which at least makes his reaction speed mach 500+. 😉

Once again, it has nothing to do with his energy. What about that don't you understand? Anyone here being in contact with the suns core temperature for a single second would be completely atomized. They have no feats or statements to suggest otherwise. I'm not arguing that Yamamoto has enough energy to perform a star busting kamehameha wave, I'm arguing that he can produce temperatures high enough to melt characters in DB up to Master Roshi... making Asura, Ryu and Akuma fodder. 👆

Again, let me stress that I'm aware the Bleach characters are physically RAPED by these three, but they still have nothing to counter Yama's bankai.

Uh you wouldn't happen to be referring to this thing where Aizen is hit by Gin's bankai would you: http://www.mangapanda.com/94-56110-15/bleach/chapter-414.html

Kubo's already proven that he doesn't know how to integrate science properly into his manga. Also other than the with his sword exactly what has Yamamoto shown to have disintegrated with his so call "solar hot bankai".

You mean the bankai that totally didn't destroy Soul Society. Plus these 3 should be faster than all of the Bleach verse characters so what's stopping them from ripping Yamamoto's head off?

Originally posted by ares834
Did you just imply Asura was fodder compared to Master Roshi?

😂

The casual moon busting Master Roshi that has techniques capable of immobilizing Asura instantly? Pretty much. A single Kamehameha wave would be more than enough to kill Asura. 👆

I'm not saying he could easily land it, but if he did, Asura would be dust.

Also, I didn't say he was fodder to Roshi. It would be a much better fight than this is. I was simply saying that Roshi has tanked things that can be calced to far more than just 15 million degrees, and Asura hasn't.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Uh you wouldn't happen to be referring to this thing where Aizen is hit by Gin's bankai would you: http://www.mangapanda.com/94-56110-15/bleach/chapter-414.html

Kubo's already proven that he doesn't know how to integrate science properly into his manga. Also other than the with his sword exactly what has Yamamoto shown to have disintegrated with his so call "solar hot bankai".

You mean the bankai that totally didn't destroy Soul Society. Plus these 3 should be faster than all of the Bleach verse characters so what's stopping them from ripping Yamamoto's head off?

Well... Due to this new found evidence supporting that Gin's bankai isn't mach 500, the conclusion might be that... I'm an *******.

Anyway though, I still guarantee that Aizen could get his sword out before he would get killed, and use Kyoka Suigetsu to gain an opening for Yama's bankai.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. By this of course, I mean that just because someone doesn't have feats, it doesn't mean their true abilities are known. That's like saying TOAA would lose to Spiderman because he has no feats. Yama's bankai was stated to be 15 million degrees, which is as hot as the suns core. It has nothing to do with science, because if it did, he wouldn't have a magical sword that could shoot fire in the first place. 👆

Again though, the three have no defense against Yama's bankai, and if they do(which I am honestly not sure of, because I don't know that much about them, as I have admitted before), then please show it whatever statements or feats point to that. If not, then they could still potentially lose against the Bleach verse. 👆

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The casual moon busting Master Roshi that has techniques capable of immobilizing Asura instantly? Pretty much. A single Kamehameha wave would be more than enough to kill Asura. 👆

I'm not saying he could easily land it, but if he did, Asura would be dust.

Also, I didn't say he was fodder to Roshi. It would be a much better fight than this is. I was simply saying that Roshi has tanked things that can be calced to far more than just 15 million degrees, and Asura hasn't.

Asura in a far weaker form destroyed a planet sized opponent... A single Kamehameha from Roshi is going to do jack shit to this version of Asura. 👆

Edit: Heck, a weaker form of Asura survived an energy blast that could destroy the planet...

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The casual moon busting Master Roshi that has techniques capable of immobilizing Asura instantly? Pretty much. A single Kamehameha wave would be more than enough to kill Asura. 👆

I'm not saying he could easily land it, but if he did, Asura would be dust.

Also, I didn't say he was fodder to Roshi. It would be a much better fight than this is. I was simply saying that Roshi has tanked things that can be calced to far more than just 15 million degrees, and Asura hasn't.


Moon busting is 1e29 Joules.

Wyen's poke registers at 3e34 Joules. Early 6 arms Asura beat that, and his 6 arm form gets a lot stronger after taking on the Deities above Wyzen.

Roshi and Asura can't be compared. Bleach isn't even mentionable.

So what exactly says Roshi could tank more than that heat?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Show where it has ONCE been stated that Gin's bankai doesn't move at mach 500. I can show where it has been stated that it DOES. Aizen easily dodged his bankai also, which at least makes his reaction speed mach 500+. 😉

Once again, it has nothing to do with his energy. What about that don't you understand? Anyone here being in contact with the suns core temperature for a single second would be completely atomized. They have no feats or statements to suggest otherwise. I'm not arguing that Yamamoto has enough energy to perform a star busting kamehameha wave, I'm arguing that he can produce temperatures high enough to melt characters in DB up to Master Roshi... making Asura, Ryu and Akuma fodder. 👆

Again, let me stress that I'm aware the Bleach characters are physically RAPED by these three, but they still have nothing to counter Yama's bankai.

Others have covered that, moving on

Prove it has nothing to do with energy, heat is not hax, it does not ignore durability, it's just a more concentrated form of energy, heat's effectiveness depends on quantity of heat

Define "anyone"? Pussy from Bleach #3? lol

Asura in any form above Destructor can solo DBZ, so that was a terrible example

Might as well say a 9mm bullet can kill a human therefore it can kill Post Crisis Superman, lol

Nothing to counter, other than tanking far worse attacks than what Yama can dish out, outspeeding the ****er by a massive margain to the point he'll never hit them and being capable of one shotting the ****er

No but seriously, Asura can destroy all of Soul Society with a single punch.

Team stomps.