Patient_Leech
Perfect Organism
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
My bigger issue is with the plotholes, like Neo using powers out of the Matrix...
Yeah, we will derail this thread. I don't mind picking it up somewhere else. The Matrix forum, that never gets used? lol.. But people have been throwing around the word "plothole" way too easily nowadays, just because it's something they don't understand. What you call a "plothole" is actually a classic literary device (King Lear, Oedipus). Being physically blinded, but being awakened with a new inner vision is a profound literary motif. And as far as him being able to use powers in the real world, do I really need to tell you that it's science fiction? You've already suspended plenty of disbelief throughout the series and that's what you can't accept? Part of the "Neo" program was to have certain powers in the Matrix, so once he found his new vision and could "see" the machines' true selves, he could manipulate them, too. The previous "Ones" didn't find this "new vision," they simply did as they were told, but Neo was acting on some personal intuition guided by his love for Trinity and seeing that Sati & Family were machines and capable of love also.
People hate on the Matrix movies for no reason. That shit is studied in colleges (I took a whole class on it). The only problems with it are superficial things like goofy, distracting costumes in the sequels. But as far as the deeper meanings go, they're forever relevant and profound.
As for my list, most have been mentioned before...
Constantine
Iron Man 2 & 3
Green Lantern
Watchmen
Spawn
Man of Steel
I am Legend (I have mixed feelings for it, though I enjoy watching it)
Reign of Fire (what's not to like? it's fun)
Centurion (I really like this one, don't think most people would hate it)
The Matrix Sequels (too dense and thought-provoking for the masses)
Temple of Doom (might be my favorite Indy film actually!)