Iron Man or Batman

Who acted better in their role, RDJ as Iron Man or Christian Bale as Batman? Which actor was more significant to the success of his respective movie?

RDJ

Originally posted by Silent Master
RDJ

Why?

Have you seen the movies? Because just about all the reviews I've read and everyone I've talked to agree that Bale is the weakest part of the movies.

RJD for sure.

RDJ definitely. Can't say I blame Bale though. The way Marvel makes their movies, they focus heavily on the hero and the development of his character.

WB/DC puts quite a bit of focus on their villains and the hero takes a step back compared to the focus of the story.

both were great in their respective roles

That wasn't the question, the question was who acted better in their role and the correct answer IMO is RDJ.

Iron Man was pretty different from the comic book version but so was Batman. Bale was an okay Bruce Wayne and a terrible Batman, his voice almost ruined the movies for me. RDJ was at least charismatic.

I have to agree. RDJ wins.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Iron Man was pretty different from the comic book version

How so?

the Tony Stark Persona was spot on from Robert's portrayal.

Originally posted by Kazenji
How so?

the Tony Stark Persona was spot on from Robert's portrayal.

Tony Stark in the comics wasn't quite the smart mouth that RDJ was. Tony comics is a carefree playboy but he's a bit more serious. He isn't the wisecracking, sarcastic, smart mouth that RDJ is. That role actually falls to Hawkeye.

Some of the Iron Man comics that i've read he has been a smart mouth.

Maybe if you're talking about Ultimate Tony.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Tony Stark in the comics wasn't quite the smart mouth that RDJ was. Tony comics is a carefree playboy but he's a bit more serious. He isn't the wisecracking, sarcastic, smart mouth that RDJ is. That role actually falls to Hawkeye.

RDJ acted better in his role and pretty much set his career on fire from the IM role.

That said he is not a better actor then Bale who has a supporting oscar win and is up this year for best actor in a leading role.

Bale is > RDJ in acting but his Batman was extremely bland.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It is more accurate to say that Tony in the comics wasn't a wisecracking douchebag (I mean this with the best of intentions) until RDJ's depiction of the character proved popular enough to make him one.

Agreed. Since RDJ's Ironman became a hit, every succeeding rendition of that character has been based on his template, from comics to cartoons. I feel kinda bad for Hawkeye, as he used to be the wisecracking douche of the Avengers team, kinda like Human Torch is for the F4. But since RDJ fills that role in the live action movie, Hawkeye is basically left without much personality.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Bale is > RDJ in acting but his Batman was extremely bland.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Agreed. Since RDJ's Ironman became a hit, every succeeding rendition of that character has been based on his template, from comics to cartoons. I feel kinda bad for Hawkeye, as he used to be the wisecracking douche of the Avengers team, kinda like Human Torch is for the F4. But since RDJ fills that role in the live action movie, Hawkeye is basically left without much personality.

Yeah, Hawkeye didn't even get much of the film to be a hero, but his lines in Thor were pretty amusing.

RDJ was, to a certain extent, playing himself. Not much acting flexibility required in that. While RDJ's performance was more amusing than Bale's, Bale had to moreso flex his acting talent. Bale had to sell a sharp contrast between Bruce Wayne and Batman. Bale plays Bruce Wayne with a hidden darkness, which is expressed as batman.

Just an argument ppl make for Bale. I agree with the consensus, RDJ was a better Iron Man than Baleman.