Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's like saying Kaiju are weak because they got beat up by manmade robots and explosions.Asgardian/Dark Elven blades seem to be more or less on par (I.e. cut through whatever they want) and that sci-fi grenade was like a localized black hole opening up in his chest. 😬
Finally a voice of reason
This is a good match up but I think the Avengers will ultimately win. Iron man (tony stark) is to much of an X factor here. If Iron Man is limited to using only the amount of energy in one Arc reactor then I think Kaiju might win. However, if he is able to strategically retreat during the battle then it's only a matter of time before the monsters fall. I think Thor is certainly capable of handling the focus of at least two Kaiju. This isn't to say that I think the film version of Thor could down two of the Kaiju alone but I think he would be more than capable of keeping at least two of the monsters at bay or focused on him. I think the Hulk would be capable of defeating these monsters, but only one at a time. If he has to deal with more than one at a time he may get overwhelmed. Although, this is just because we don't know the full limits of his powers and endurance. Captain America, Hawkeye and black widow aren't going to be of much use here. Hawkeye could be use full if he has a scientist concoct some kind of special explosive or poisonous arrows, other than that these three will be limited to causing distractions with military vehicles.
I think it's definitely possible for the Avengers to win but I don't believe they have as much of an advantage that this forum does. In fact I think they're at a great disadvantage. Their victory will depend on the genius of Bruce banner and Tony start, not the might of their alter egos.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
This is a good match up but I think the Avengers will ultimately win. Iron man (tony stark) is to much of an X factor here. If Iron Man is limited to using only the amount of energy in one Arc reactor then I think Kaiju might win. However, if he is able to strategically retreat during the battle then it's only a matter of time before the monsters fall. I think Thor is certainly capable of handling the focus of at least two Kaiju. This isn't to say that I think the film version of Thor could down two of the Kaiju alone but I think he would be more than capable of keeping at least two of the monsters at bay or focused on him. I think the Hulk would be capable of defeating these monsters, but only one at a time. If he has to deal with more than one at a time he may get overwhelmed. Although, this is just because we don't know the full limits of his powers and endurance. Captain America, Hawkeye and black widow aren't going to be of much use here. Hawkeye could be use full if he has a scientist concoct some kind of special explosive or poisonous arrows, other than that these three will be limited to causing distractions with military vehicles.I think it's definitely possible for the Avengers to win but I don't believe they have as much of an advantage that this forum does. In fact I think they're at a great disadvantage. Their victory will depend on the genius of Bruce banner and Tony start, not the might of their alter egos.
You're forgetting one of the Kaiju has an EMP. Tony dies at the start.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's like saying Kaiju are weak because they got beat up by manmade robots and explosions.Asgardian/Dark Elven blades seem to be more or less on par (I.e. cut through whatever they want) and that sci-fi grenade was like a localized black hole opening up in his chest. 😬
Those manmade robots were strong enough to use an entire ship as if it was a baseball bat. That's a better strength feat than Hulk's Leviathan punch, and the big Kaiju was overpowering Gypsy with one arm.
I disagree. We can't compare the grenades with black holes because the best those grenades ever did was destroy a throne. Not impressive.
Hulk solos the whole thing. He punched the flying whale plane in the face and it fell over backwards and died. Hulk will punch them in the face they'll stagger backwards and pain. Then he'll continue to grapple and rip around their body causing immense pain. Then another K will try to eat hulk whole, but what's this? The hulk did an amazing hulk jump to a third K and the other end up tearing a chunk out of the other. Hulk jumps in the air and kicks one in the face straight down knocking it in to the water a massive crash. Hulk is then successfully eaten and swallowed by the second. It seems happy and turns to the others when suddenly it feels immense pain and hulks busts out of its throat like a beautiful green angel of death.
Hulk solo's whole fight.
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Hulk solos the whole thing. He punched the flying whale plane in the face and it fell over backwards and died.
I doubt that flying whale could tank a nuke.
I'm going with the Kaiju here. If it took days on constant military bombardment to take out the weakest one, then I'm pretty sure IM will deplete his entire arsenal before he takes on down. If Hulk manages to make one them bleed, the acidic blood will corrode Hulk into a skeletal husk. Thor is the only one with a chance here, and IDK if he can take down Slattern.
Originally posted by NemeBro+1
Keep in mind that Thor is a considerably faster and smaller target than anything we see the Kaiju take out.I doubt they can take a hammer to the eye too well.
Hulk and Thor are actually probably stronger, to be honest. Based on their showings against Gipsy Danger, who weighs "only" 450 tons or some shit.
Thor lobotomizes one by one. The rest of the Avengers are boned though.
Iirc Kurse wasn't really bothered by the impaling was he?
Don't nukes give out an EMP blast on detonation?
Iirc Tony want really affected after the rigours of both travelling unprepared in space and having a nuke basically go off in his face. When revived he seemed to have full mobility with his suit
Also you're forgetting that Thor can charge him up to 4000% [citation needed]
IMO Hulk breaks their skulls using kaiju shells, Thor gives them a tonsillectomy (hey real word) with Mjolnir and summons a Bifröst buster
(is this specially avengers movie avengers or just characters that have advanced since then ?[is Incredible Hulk canon?])
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Iirc Kurse wasn't really bothered by the impaling was he?Don't nukes give out an EMP blast on detonation?
Iirc Tony want really affected after the rigours of both travelling unprepared in space and having a nuke basically go off in his face. When revived he seemed to have full mobility with his suit
Also you're forgetting that Thor can charge him up to 4000% [citation needed]IMO Hulk breaks their skulls using kaiju shells, Thor gives them a tonsillectomy (hey real word) with Mjolnir and summons a Bifröst buster
(is this specially avengers movie avengers or just characters that have advanced since then ?[is Incredible Hulk canon?])
There's no way Hulk and Thor can easily kill creatures that can tank the military for days. Also what defense do the Avengers have against the acid?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Apparently an update on Gipsy Danger's mass has been made. It is now just shy of 2,000 tons.Still too light but eh.
Yeah the Jaegers definitely look heavier. Even so the big Kaiju lifted Gypsy and tossed it several miles. That's a better strength feat than anything movie Hulk has ever done imo.
It's actually pretty hard for the Kaiju to defeat Hulk, Thor, and IM (other than EMP). They're pretty small, pretty fast, and pretty strong.
And while it will probably take a while for the team to defeat the Kaiju, I still think it's more plausible than the other way around. Only problem is by the time the Avengers defeat all the Kaiju, probably half the world would be dead.
Originally posted by Psychotron
You're forgetting one of the Kaiju has an EMP. Tony dies at the start.
I wasn't forgetting that, I just don't know how much of an effect an emp blast would have on Starks Arc reactor. It's an element that I assume may be affected by an emp blast but there's nothing to suggest how strong of an affect it may have. I know he doesn't require reactors to live anymore but that energy is the same type of energy that powers his suits and I really doubt that an EMP blast would permanently shut his suits down. Like I said before if Start has no prep time an only access to one suit then the Avengers don't have a chance. If the Avengers have time to develop a strategy then I think they have an incredible chance of winning.