Originally posted by carver9
So Plutonian bas reaction time and running fts thats light speed? What about Solar?
He transforms into a group of unfiltered energy particles moving through fiber optic lines, and radio signals.
Granted that when he solidifies himself he does not move as fast. But in his energy form, he can become pure Light reminiscent to Lightmaster or Living Laser only more powerful.
Personally, I don't think anyone mentioned so far has actual ftl combat speed (Not Superman, Surfer, Thor etc.).
And some of the examples used? I don't think dodging a beam or throwing attacks while flying at the speed of light or whatever actually counts. I think FTL combat is such an extreme level that only those who actually perform legitimate COMBAT while moving at those kind of levels should count.
This is legit faster then light combat capabilities using the standards of this thread but personally I think that's far too generous. That's my current point of view on the topic anyways.
Originally posted by jaxthejester
Thor moved Mjolnir fast enough to block a blast from Phoenix (Rachel), well after she fired it.
A telepathic bolt of energy (Sometimes, that's > light in itself) that's blocked after it's fired? As good of an example as any of reaction. But I don't think it should be used as evidence of faster then light combat.
Also, I think people confuse combat with throwing punches moving at certain speeds. Superman vs. Wonder Woman sacrifice? Not something I would count either.
@Abhi & Carver.
Regarding Clark & Monica. Time slows down when you move at near light speed. This effect called "Time Dilation".
So its understandable, characters like Clark or Monica who move or exceed light speed, to have proper senses to cope with the effects "Time Dilation".
Otherwise, it would it would prove to be disastrous. Think about it, having ability to move at super speed, yet your senses unable to sync with your ability would make you feel as if you are frozen in time, and yet consciously experience everything.
Now flip the same coin by its other face value, if your senses, and ability are in sync to your super speed. A nano-secon gives you a generous amount of time to speak when moving at light speed.
This is why I find Abhi scan of Superman impressive, but not beyond that of Monica's own.
Just my 2¢
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Personally, I don't think anyone mentioned so far has actual ftl combat speed (Not Superman, Surfer, Thor etc.).And some of the examples used? I don't think dodging a beam or throwing attacks while flying at the speed of light or whatever actually counts. I think FTL combat is such an extreme level that only those who actually perform legitimate COMBAT while moving at those kind of levels should count.
This is legit faster then light combat capabilities using the standards of this thread but personally I think that's far too generous. That's my current point of view on the topic anyways.
👆 it's rarely if ever shown. Flight is a completely different standard than fighting but whatever.
Originally posted by "Id"
@Abhi & Carver.Regarding Clark & Monica. Time slows down when you move at near light speed. This effect called "Time Dilation".
So its understandable, characters like Clark or Monica who move or exceed light speed, to have proper senses to cope with the effects "Time Dilation".
Otherwise, it would it would prove to be disastrous. Think about it, having ability to move at super speed, yet your senses unable to sync with your ability would make you feel as if you are frozen in time, and yet consciously experience everything.
Now flip the same coin by its other face value, if your senses, and ability are in sync to your super speed. A nano-secon gives you a generous amount of time to speak when moving at light speed.
This is why I find Abhi scan of Superman impressive, but not beyond that of Monica's own.
Just my 2¢
Still looking into that ft. The Monica ft is nice though but it isnt a combat speed ft.
Originally posted by "Id"
Captain Atom, and Shaman X-Man.
Shaman X-Man:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717186/Dark_X-Men_003_014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717187/Dark_X-Men_003_015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717189/Dark_X-Men_003_016.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717191/Dark_X-Men_003_017.jpg.html
Originally posted by "Id"
How is it not? It took place in combat?
She outsped time. She wasnt battling during that scene. Hulk recently moved while time was stopped, to the point that he was able to even grab a sword that was thrown at him but that doesn't mean he was moving at light speed or it counting as a combat showing. I just disagree.
Originally posted by "Id"
Captain Atom:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717161/P00005.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717165/P00006.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717168/P00007.jpg.htmlShaman X-Man:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717186/Dark_X-Men_003_014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717187/Dark_X-Men_003_015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717189/Dark_X-Men_003_016.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17717191/Dark_X-Men_003_017.jpg.html
Niiiice Captain Atom ft. Don't think it's light speed though. Spiderman sees the world in slow mo/paused but we both know he isn't a light speedster (a Spiderman powered Herc seen bullets at STOP speed in mid air).
Id, what do you think about this ft? Would you consider this a light speed showing?.
Originally posted by carver9
This should end this thread. This is by far one of the best speed fts I have seen in a DC comic. Insane. This doesn't include him tanking Kalibaks attack and 3 shot killing him. Ironman dies.http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot_zps0ff6ffe1.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot2_zps1d9317d1.jpg.html?sort=9&o=50
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot3_zps6206eacb.jpg.html?sort=9&o=66
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot4_zps86092cb9.jpg.html?sort=9&o=74
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot5_zps0111837a.jpg.html?sort=9&o=81
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot6_zps101069e9.jpg.html?sort=9&o=98
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot7_zpsb8470257.jpg.html?sort=9&o=109
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot8_zps9f0718ab.jpg.html?sort=9&o=112
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot10_zpsb5161591.jpg.html?sort=9&o=138
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot11_zps78e78e4e.jpg.html?sort=9&o=144Incredible
Originally posted by carver9
Niiiice Captain Atom ft. Don't think it's light speed though. Spiderman sees the world in slow mo/paused but we both know he isn't a light speedster (a Spiderman powered Herc seen bullets at STOP speed in mid air).
Not necessarily light speed, but the law of physics do not apply to characters like Captain Atom, or X-Man due to their transcendence. Its within their capacity to operate in between moments.
Originally posted by carver9
Id, what do you think about this ft? Would you consider this a light speed showing?.
For people like Superman or Flash, who are not gifted the ability move through the 4th Four-dimensional space (like the two above.)
Factors are needed. Time, and Distance. Otherwise, its all speculation no matter how awesome the feat is. Shot answer, I don't know.
Example: Using a small black hole as a magnet, Plutonian needed to cover every square inch of the planet, to absorb every last bit of radiation.
Note: Light travels at 186,000 miles per second.
Distance: every square inch of the planet 196.9 million sq miles (510.1 million km²)
At light speed, it would take approximately 1059 (17.65 min) seconds to cover every square inch of the globe. Plutonian did in 3 to 4 minutes. Respectively 5.8 to 4.4 times the speed pf light.
In reality these numbers are off, since Plutonian covered the entire atmosphere inch by inch, making it more impressive.
