^ Zadkiel didn't conquer heaven alone, not to mention that he needed the power of the GRs to achieve that too.
Regular Zadkiel gets stomped. If he has the power of Yahweh (Which he doesn't have full access to, because his power grew the longer he had Heaven under his control), he had universal reality warping. Meaning he could win.
Originally posted by golem370
Asgard is Norse Heaven and Mangog destroyed it. Walker is a death God killed his whole galaxy.
Mangog never destroyed Asgard. He was owning everyone there, yeah.
Best performance for Classic Mangog would be in the 2nd arc he appeared in. He was a legit threat to Odin (who was established to be a galaxy-buster back then). He even handled him pretty easily along with his army, in Thor #196:
http://i.imgur.com/DOz9Gh3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sA2oZ3o.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/60yHzQq.jpg
Bio even confirms that he handled him easily:
http://i.imgur.com/J1Qpyre.jpg?1
....which led to Odin teleporting Asgard (which also weakened him).
Although, Odin has defeated Classic Mangog on more than one occasion. But that was through cutting off his power source.
Mangog also needed the Odinsword to end the universe, so there's that. He's not a legit universal being on his own....but extremely powerful for sure.
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As for Walker, yeah. We know it to be true, because we saw him destroy it on panel (kind of).
Originally posted by guy222
Been awhile reading how he conquered 'heaven'.
He needed the power of the GRs/spirits to break through the walls of heaven and he did it through trickery (by deceiving Ketch), GR v6 #30:
http://i.imgur.com/idFDZYK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pOygcsS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/blL4CiD.jpg
And here's a 2011 bio confirming it:
http://i.imgur.com/RqSMU7S.jpg?1
Originally posted by guy222
Love the reference about em being the new Morningstar
Well yeah, but considering that GR owned the Morningstar (at half power) a few issues prior.......that's not exactly a title to brag about, lol.
In any case, i think we both know that regular Zadkiel isn't on Odin's level. Everyone here is beyond that level (in Mangog's and Gorr's case, it's as a team).
Already provied showings for Mangog. Walker destroyed a galaxy on panel. Twilight sword once warped reality on a universal scale, so that's a powerful combination (i have scans if you want).
