Originally posted by Insane Titan
Been a Apoc fan for years but never really seen anything from him to say he beats Kurse for a majority
Originally posted by zopzopvery much doubt he would any knowledge on Kurse weakness at all
Straight up? No, you are right. Apoc lacks the firepower (it took all the power in Mjolnir AND Stormbreaker to KO Kurse). Abusing Kurse's easily exploitable weakness is key. Apoc isn't stupid and he seems to have some knowledge of Asgard.
My money's on Apocalypse. He's strong enough to go toe to to with Kurse and has other abilities like teleportation and flight that allow him to dictate the terms of combat. Not to mention the fact that all Apocalypse really needs to do is morph his hand into a minigun shooting thousands of high caliber iron rounds and Kurse is dead.
Originally posted by zopzopEasily exploitable is a bit of an overstatement, imo.
Abusing Kurse's easily exploitable weakness is key.
In Kurse's entire character history, the only instance I found in which his iron weakness has been used against him was when Power Pack dropped a several-hundred-ton building(with iron girders/framework) on top of him:
http://imgur.com/XQKDhdG
http://imgur.com/rmJWG7Z
http://imgur.com/xNOUPUp
However, not long afterward(the same day) Kurse was able to free himself from the iron rubble, and didn't appear to have sustained any lasting damage whatsoever:
http://imgur.com/vZbsGCc
http://imgur.com/NQPcIhb
I guess my point is that exploiting Kurse's iron weakness isn't the 'insta-win' many people make it out to be... It certainly doesn't affect him like Kryptonite affects Superman, for example.
Originally posted by Galan007
Easily exploitable is a bit of an overstatement, imo.In Kurse's entire character history, the only instance I found in which his iron weakness has been used against him was when Power Pack dropped a several-hundred-ton building(with iron girders/framework) on top of him:
http://imgur.com/XQKDhdG
http://imgur.com/rmJWG7Z
http://imgur.com/xNOUPUpHowever, not long afterward(the same day) Kurse was able to free himself from the iron rubble, and didn't appear to have sustained any lasting damage whatsoever:
http://imgur.com/vZbsGCc
http://imgur.com/NQPcIhbI guess my point is that exploiting Kurse's iron weakness isn't the 'insta-win' many people make it out to be... It certainly doesn't affect him like Kryptonite affects Superman, for example.
And there's a big difference between impaling him with an iron spike/riddling his body with iron bullets and dropping an iron framed building on him and . I bet you the former would phuck him up a lot worse than the latter.
Originally posted by zopzopI'm not saying Apoc wouldn't know about his iron weakness--he might. I'm just saying that we've only seen it 'exploited' a single time on panel. I'm just saying that if Kurse were immensely vulnerable to iron, having several-hundred-tons of it dropped on his dome would have caused significant damage(imagine hundreds of tons of k-nite dropped onto Superman, for example)--but he was relatively unscathed.
Dude a CHILD knew his weakness. You telling me Apocalypse ,whose had dealings with Asgardians, couldn't do the same?And there's a big difference between impaling him with an iron spike/riddling his body with iron bullets and dropping an iron framed building on him and . I bet you the former would phuck him up a lot worse than the latter.
I'm just saying that iron manifestation doesn't necessarily equate to an auto-win... Not based on what we've seen, at least.