Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Speedy, who for some reason always carried a Phantom zone arrow (so, unprepped):
The forum rules on "standard" might have something to say about that. But lol.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
In all honesty the tier thread is too many pages and it's too messy to follow. It should be updated in a NEW thread to the current Stardate I.E. 91735.2Juss sayn'
You referring to the new one that's pinned at the top of this forum? http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html
If so, it's not really ancient.
But I'm not the person to be complaining to. I closed the original tiers thread years ago. If it were still my call, no list would exist anymore.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
It's actually a somewhat scary thought, isn't it?In a very real sense, even if you consider only the time commitment alone, we are sharing our very lives together.
This is hilarious, stupid, false, accurate, and insightful all at once. Now gtfo. No contribution you could make to this thread could top this post.
Originally posted by Digi
The forum rules on "standard" might have something to say about that. But lol.You referring to the new one that's pinned at the top of this forum? http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t577922.html
If so, it's not really ancient.
But I'm not the person to be complaining to. I closed the original tiers thread years ago. If it were still my call, no list would exist anymore.
This is hilarious, stupid, false, accurate, and insightful all at once. Now gtfo. No contribution you could make to this thread could top this post.
If so, it's not really ancient.
IMO a lot has happened in the past year
Originally posted by Digi
This is hilarious, stupid, false, accurate, and insightful all at once. Now gtfo. No contribution you could make to this thread could top this post.
I doubt that's true if we're using Kingpin's fight against the Red Skull as our model. Minus your insults, I was actually hoping for your return because you're one of the few people who might know of Daredevil's success or lack thereof with the Kingpin.
Daredevil is definitely street level, and has fought and won hand-to-hand against people who were even STRONGER than Classic Kingpin.
Immediately coming to mind, because I actually owned 2 of the 3 books where they appeared, are Death's Head's "Smasher"s, from Daredevil #138 and Daredevil #149, respectively.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/fuclmg.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/3088tpv.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/amps8h.jpg
Note that either is vastly stronger than Daredevil, comparable or arguably greater in strength than Classic KP, who I've never seen pick up a car and throw like that.
(Arguably, that vehicle might be a motorcycle or the like, though the smashing of a safe by the first Smasher,
and the ripping of a lamppost and demolition of a wall by the second Smasher makes either plausible.)
Note that they are beaten with pressure points.
Note that we are given similar fight action as our model for this thread.
Note that, because of Daredevil's heightened senses, Daredevil, quite unlike Red Skull, should theoretically be able to "pinpoint" exactly where he needs to hit a person to be most effective.
All that remains is your confirmation:
Has Daredevil fought and beaten the Kingpin in a match like Red Skull's before?
Correction to the above: Note that the 2nd Smasher is beaten by Daredevil's special senses and knowledge of pressure points.
The first Smasher was actually eliminated by Death Stalker, hence Daredevil's refusal to have the 2nd Smasher arrested.
(Daredevil was trying to prevent that 2nd Smasher from suffering the fate of Smasher 2's predecessor.)
