Originally posted by Insane Titan
Tenerbrous wins.People take the fact Galactus blast didn't effect Tyrant greatly as the deciding factor here, yet Thanos with a orb did more the DP Tyrant than Galactus did!! Using Zop logic Thanos is above Galactus.
T and A ambushed a hungry Galactus as he was about to feed. Teneberous couldn't put him down by himself till Aegis jumped in with a sneak attack.
A weakened "DP" Tyrant took on a fed and prepped Galactus on Galactus' home turf.
See the difference?
Regarding the Orb, it was EXPLAINED on panel that the orbs can be used against him by Terrax in Cosmic Powers 2. That's why Thanos went out and got one before he faced Tyrant.
Seems people forget Thanos best a FP Tyrant and Depowered him easily
YOu seem to be forgetting Galactus backed down from his threat to attack Tyrant if Tyrant didn't hand over his herald to him. This despite the fact that he took Tyrant by surprise. Surfer even called him on it.
The only reason why DP Tyrant won was due to 2 plot device elements. The first is he inexplicably developed the ability to absorb Galactus' blasts due to feeding off biospheric energy. That ability just appeared out of thin air. ***The second is that Galactus used his tech and Tyrant exhibited technopathy which is the only thing that allowed him to win that fight. Controlling Galactus' tech and using it against him.***
Both of those are completely irrelevant to this fight since Tenebrous does not wield biospheric energy nor does he have any tech whatsoever to exploit. None of the advantages Tyrant had against Galactus exist against Tenebrous. NONE.
Also, his power orbs aren't part of his standard gear, so they're irrelevant as well.
And Tenebrous had Galactus on the ropes. He was bleeding cosmic energy and the fight ended that much quicker because Aegis dispatched surfer so swiftly. Tenebrous had cracks on his armor but it wasn't broken like Galactus'.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
The only reason why DP Tyrant won was due to 2 plot device elements. The first is he inexplicably developed the ability to absorb Galactus' blasts due to feeding off biospheric energy. That ability just appeared out of thin air. ***The second is that Galactus used his tech and Tyrant exhibited technopathy which is the only thing that allowed him to win that fight. Controlling Galactus' tech and using it against him.***Both of those are completely irrelevant to this fight since Tenebrous does not wield biospheric energy nor does he have any tech whatsoever to exploit. None of the advantages Tyrant had against Galactus exist against Tenebrous. NONE.
Also, his power orbs aren't part of his standard gear, so they're irrelevant as well.
And Tenebrous had Galactus on the ropes. He was bleeding cosmic energy and the fight ended that much quicker because Aegis dispatched surfer so swiftly. Tenebrous had cracks on his armor but it wasn't broken like Galactus'.
Did you also forget that even before the showdown between Galactus and Tyrant under Lackey's pen, Marz had Galactus back down from a fight with Tyrant despite taking him surprise.
Originally posted by zopzop
Teneberous took on a HUNGRY Galactus by SURPRISE. Did you forget that little tidbit?Did you also forget that even before the showdown between Galactus and Tyrant under Lackey's pen, Marz had Galactus back down from a fight with Tyrant despite taking him surprise.
What is your point. You're responding to me with implied threat for a fight that never happened under marz for which galactus backed down for fear of the damage they would unleash.
DP tyrant can't absorb tenebrous' blasts and can't use technopahy. Unless you're going to attempt to prove that cracking galactus' armor so that it bleeds cosmic energy is so easily performed by anyone when he's hungry. In fact, he last time I remember galactus' helmet being broken in an all out battle was against....full power tyrant. What a coincidence.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
What is your point. You're responding to me with implied threat for a fight that never happened under marz for which galactus backed down for fear of the damage they would unleash.
DP tyrant can't absorb tenebrous' blasts and can't use technopahy.
Unless you're going to attempt to prove that cracking galactus' armor so that it bleeds cosmic energy is so easily performed by anyone when he's hungry. In fact, he last time I remember galactus' helmet being broken in an all out battle was against....full power tyrant. What a coincidence.
Originally posted by zopzopAnd what does that tell you? A clash with "DP" Tyrant would cause untold damage, according to Galactus himself.
Galactus attacked tyrant at his fortress. Read the series again and you'll note that it said Tyrant spent millennia roaming the universe to try to regain his lost power. The fruits of that labor were his power orbs. then, when their actual ON PANEL battle happened with DP Tyrant, Tyrant's attacks didn't do shit to Galactus, whereas FP Tyrant's did. Go figure.
He wouldn't need to to kick his @$$.
Yawn. Nothing new here, just your usual unsubstantiated fantasy.
[b]Wow really? Did you forget BRB, Fallen One, and Thor cracking his armor? Those guys are HERALDS.
None of those cracked it to the degree where he bled cosmic energy or he was visibly staggered afterwards. Also I said OUTRIGHT BATTLE. Galactus was never battling Thor and he sure as hell wasn't doing anything in physical retaliation to Odin. You don't understand what you're replying to.
DP Tyrant's blasts did shit to Galactus. FP Tyrant's blasts broke Galactus' helmet. Tenebrous' blasts broke Galactus' helmet. Not a small, insignificant (literally verbatim) crack like BRB.
DP Tyrant has no technopathy vs. Tenebrous. DP Tyrant has no biospheric energy absorbtion vs. Tenebrous. The very two elements that allowed him to win vs. Galactus. You have absolutely nothing to counter with except for an implied threat where Galactus and DP Tyrant never fought under Marz. The only feats you can use in this are DP Tyrant's battle vs. the herald team and Thanos, since he didn't use technopathy there and none of them had biospheric energy for him to absorb.
I mean are you new here? On-panel feats trump implications, just so you know.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Galactus attacked tyrant at his fortress. Read the series again and you'll note that it said Tyrant spent millennia roaming the universe to try to regain his lost power. The fruits of that labor were his power orbs. then, when their actual ON PANEL battle happened with DP Tyrant, Tyrant's attacks didn't do shit to Galactus, whereas FP Tyrant's did. Go figure.
None of those cracked it to the degree where he bled cosmic energy or he was visibly staggered afterwards. Also I said OUTRIGHT BATTLE. Galactus was never battling Thor and he sure as hell wasn't doing anything in physical retaliation to Odin. You don't understand what you're replying to.DP Tyrant's blasts did shit to Galactus. FP Tyrant's blasts broke Galactus' helmet. Tenebrous' blasts broke Galactus' helmet.
Tyrant has no technopathy vs. Tenebrous. Tyrant has no biospheric energy absorbtion vs. Tyrant. You have absolutely nothing to counter with except for an implied threat where Galactus and DP Tyrant never fought under Marz. Are you new here? On-panel feats trump implications, just so you know.
Fallen One not only tore up Galactus' armor, Galactus had blisters/boils on his hand from the attack :
Thanos himself blew Galactus off his feat, knocked off his helmet and left Galactus smoldering :
According to your "logic", all these people are more powerful than "DP" Tyrant because "DP" Tyrant's attacks didn't do anything to Galactus. 😆
These are the facts... EVER BEFORE Galactus knew Tyrant could absorb his energy or could control his machines... he viewed Tyrant as a legitimate threat. We're talking about a Galactus who hasn't backed away or go bother to feed when he's faced people like the IB.. Ego.. Agamotto in his realm... Mephisto in his realm etc etc. He didn't seem the least bit concerned about facing these guys nor even feeding. That is in STARK STARK contrast to how he dealt with Tyrant.. He backed down from their initial meeting and let him keep his herald. he then feed on a planet that made him feel like he hadn't felt in ages. All these because he was going to face Tyrant. So clearly, VERY CLEARLY, he knew tyrant was a legit threat and had no idea about his abilities to absorb his blasts or take over his tech.
Shit, even Surfer figured it would be a close battle and couldn't decide who would win.. AGAIN NOT KNOWING ABOUT THESE ABILITIES. He says " I must hurry up before they both destroy EACH OTHER" Clearly Surfer thought he was a legit threat.
People also forget that their initial fight took century after century to decide the winner and galaxies were destroyed in the process. It was no easy fight for Galactus.. in fact it was his biggest struggle shown to date Yet, we know Tyrant had gained back all of his power and says he's now at the peak of his powers and is READY to challenge Galactus again and come out of hiding. He knows what Galactus can do and his power level having fought him before and been MADE IN HIS IMAGE. If he thinks he was ready... how the F are you guys saying he wasn't ready? LOLS.. That is retarded. All these things are BEFORE he displayed any ability and from multiple sources it was stated Tyrant is a legit threat no matter what powers he has. Guess what Galactus.. Tyrant.. Surfer... Thanot were all right.. Tyrant was able to content with Galactus, and in fact, beat him. ya know, like what a legit threat can do.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
These are the facts... EVER BEFORE Galactus knew Tyrant could absorb his energy or could control his machines... he viewed Tyrant as a legitimate threat. We're talking about a Galactus who hasn't backed away or go bother to feed when he's faced people like the IB.. Ego.. Agamotto in his realm... Mephisto in his realm etc etc. He didn't seem the least bit concerned about facing these guys nor even feeding. That is in STARK STARK contrast to how he dealt with Tyrant.. He backed down from their initial meeting and let him keep his herald. he then feed on a planet that made him feel like he hadn't felt in ages. All these because he was going to face Tyrant. So clearly, VERY CLEARLY, he knew tyrant was a legit threat and had no idea about his abilities to absorb his blasts or take over his tech.
Originally posted by leonidas
i seem to recall a certain HERALD MY RAGE blast coming from a damn near starved to death galactus.
Not to mention Nova Primed survived the attack and even shielded his friends. 🙄
Originally posted by zopzopGalactus' attacks didn't so shit to DP Tyrant. Go figure. Hence why he invoked his machines.
Right. Because using Tyrant's ability to absorb biospheric energy from Galactus' blasts has what bearing in his battle with Tenebrous?
Thor blew a phucking hole through Galactus' head.
Yes, because Galactus was actively battling Thor in direct conflict. Nevermind the fact that he still maintained his TP battle with Odin even after this attack. You want to ignore the context of my statements, I don't care since that means you don't understand the logic.
Fallen One not only tore up Galactus' armor, Galactus had blisters/boils on his hand from the attack :
Galactus' armor being torn up by the fallen one while he's recovering from his battle with Hunger by hooking himself up to machines. Yawn, more ignored context from you.
Thanos himself blew Galactus off his feat, knocked off his helmet and left Galactus smoldering :
which obviously did absolutely nothing in the next page except irritate Galactus. Yawn, more ignored context from you.
According to your "logic", all these people are more powerful than "DP" Tyrant because "DP" Tyrant's attacks didn't do anything to Galactus. 😆
DP Tyrant's attacks didn't do anything to Galactus, that is confirmed on panel. The point is once he's attacking a being of Galactus' magnitude his efforts are fruitless.
Galactus' attacks did nothing to him because he absorbed the biospheric energy. Tyrant will not be able to do the same to Tenebrous since there is no biospheric energy. Meaning Tenebrous' attacks WILL HURT HIM. Tenebrous' attacks will rock the shit out of him make him BLEED, just like he did with Galactus.
The only on panel instance we have of DP Tyrant attacking someone on Galactus' level showed that the attacks were ineffective and he had to resort to technopathy. Yes, he resorted to technopathy only after Galactus resorted to his machines. A non factor in this fight since Tenebrous has no machines for him to control. If I have to spell out my logic for you there it is. Your laughing at it just proves how it is beyond your ability to grasp.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
These are the facts... EVER BEFORE Galactus knew Tyrant could absorb his energy or could control his machines... he viewed Tyrant as a legitimate threat. We're talking about a Galactus who hasn't backed away or go bother to feed when he's faced people like the IB.. Ego.. Agamotto in his realm... Mephisto in his realm etc etc. He didn't seem the least bit concerned about facing these guys nor even feeding. That is in STARK STARK contrast to how he dealt with Tyrant.. He backed down from their initial meeting and let him keep his herald. he then feed on a planet that made him feel like he hadn't felt in ages. All these because he was going to face Tyrant. So clearly, VERY CLEARLY, he knew tyrant was a legit threat and had no idea about his abilities to absorb his blasts or take over his tech.Shit, even Surfer figured it would be a close battle and couldn't decide who would win.. AGAIN NOT KNOWING ABOUT THESE ABILITIES. He says " I must hurry up before they both destroy EACH OTHER" Clearly Surfer thought he was a legit threat.
People also forget that their initial fight took century after century to decide the winner and galaxies were destroyed in the process. It was no easy fight for Galactus.. in fact it was his biggest struggle shown to date Yet, we know Tyrant had gained back all of his power and says he's now at the peak of his powers and is READY to challenge Galactus again and come out of hiding. He knows what Galactus can do and his power level having fought him before and been MADE IN HIS IMAGE. If he thinks he was ready... how the F are you guys saying he wasn't ready? LOLS.. That is retarded. All these things are BEFORE he displayed any ability and from multiple sources it was stated Tyrant is a legit threat no matter what powers he has. Guess what Galactus.. Tyrant.. Surfer... Thanot were all right.. Tyrant was able to content with Galactus, and in fact, beat him. ya know, like what a legit threat can do.
He beat Galactus by using his own machines against him. Surfer has done this before and even 1-upped Tyrant because when Surfer did it, Galactus DIED.
