What character needs a buff?

Originally posted by pym-ftw

Debuff.

Thor : I want him to be less h2h focus and more caster focus. Bring him back down to herald lvl.

Kingpin with Spider-Man strength and durability

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Yeah, we should also reduce Galactus to street level. Enough with that shit already, it's getting ridiculous, 70 years of continuity be damned.

You do the math on that.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Huh?
U saying he's trans level?

namor's that one guy you don't phuck with in the water but i really wish he was top tier. he does get buffed by power creep but his is a lot less drastic as the other heroes that debuted decades after him and it's kind of a shame.

like it sucks that herald level characters are planet killers/lifters period imo so for my tastes mountain level should be the limit (including amps and bloodlust) and namor would be right there with them

Originally posted by zopzop
Thor/Surfer/Hulk/Iron Man are fine.

Characters that need a debuff :
Marvel Skyfathers..... enough with this sh|t already. Make them Trans level that's it.

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Originally posted by zopzop
The Skyfathers would be a part of the Trans Tier. The term skyfather just means the father/king of a pantheon. They shouldn't be performing abstract level feats, that's idiotic.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Galactus is the balancing force between the UNIVERSE'S two most powerful concepts. Odin and crew are fathers of pantheons on EARTH.

You do the math on that.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
DCnU Superman - Strength and speed boost. Maybe he can finally be Wonder Woman level amirite Carver?

Yeah, we should also reduce Galactus to street level. Enough with that shit already, it's getting ridiculous, 70 years of continuity be damned.

That 70 years of continuity should be damned if it makes absolutely no sense logically...

Odin as portrayed during Thor 300 (as compared to actual high powered cosmics) is where he should really be...

He is an Earth level deity...not some ultra powerful universe level azz kicker...the Earthly Skyfathers are paid waaaayyyyyyyyyy too much respect by Marvel.

This thread makes me seriously happy that none of you are comic book writers. Making Thor (You know, the favored war god of a warrior culture) a ****ing h2h-eschewing caster and making Superman edgy are horrible ideas.

Anyway...

Juggernaut. I feel like WWH establishing (Unless it was established before? I don't know) that the potency of his power are in inverse proportion to the virtuosity of his moral compass were very interesting ideas, and the idea of Cain having to gradually decay even further morally to stave off escalating threats to his person is a thematically rich and interesting idea IMO, but to my knowledge has never really been seriously touched on.

Colossus doesn't need a buff; he just needs writers that aren't idiots to be on his books.

Thor needs a strength boost. He could finally be at Superior Venom's level while going all out.

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I would buff Colossus.

He should have class 80-90 strength and high durability, equivalent to organic osmium steel. In other words, he should be portrayed fairly and faithfully, instead of making him job all the frigging time.

Edit. Oops too late, Pr basically said the same thing already.

He's already class 100, though... Unless I misunderstand?

Might be, I'm not exactly sure about the exact strength classifications.. I consider the likes of Hulk and Juggernaut class 100, and Colossus a bit below them (but strong enough to give them a bit of a fight).

not saying he needs a buff or anything but, batman needs somethin' new to his usual arsenal, maybe somethin' like a bat radar, like DD, seeing that he is BATman. batarangs that transforms into bats. kinetic energy absorbing armor.

martian manhunter, somethin' to stop his jobber aura

hulk, more brains/ or atleast his WWH mentality

cyclops, better OB

superman DCNU, some combat feats, seriously, but I think he would gets some training from diana at some comic?

DEBUFF batman to skyfather

WonderMan - needs to be either Thor level or dead.

Wonder Woman - stronger than Superman ✅.

Hulk - GreenScar.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
like it sucks that herald level characters are planet killers/lifters period imo so for my tastes mountain level should be the limit

*Because of its gravitational binding energy, to bust the Earth in a second, eg, would require 500,000x what the Sun puts out in a second.

buff- Orion. For a character with his destiny they kinda treat his relationship with darkseid like drax to thanos (meaning hes more of a silver bullet to darkseid than an all around powerhouse). He rarely shines unless its with darkseid.