Brutal VS Thor

Originally posted by carver9
How did Darkseid destroy the planet?

Originally posted by carver9
The same young Superman that couldn't lift or stop a ship? The same Superman that struggled to stop a train. Yeah, defeating that Superman makes you a trans level character. You're great.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
post the scans and i see if there is context to it. Stomping fate and sups the way he did puts him ad trans. Also the fact he was on par with darkseid before the amp. After the amp he is darkseid on roids.

Lol...why would I need to post a scan of him failing to stop a ship? Shouldn't you know what I am talking about since you are claiming that beating this version of Superman makes him a trans. Why would I post the train scene when you should know what I am talking about? You are the one using this character as a totem pole. I bet Galan knows what scene I am talking about, since, well, he is actually reading the stories instead of guessing.

Gladiator has been stated as being the most powerful being in the universe and even though he is one of my faves, I even know that crap isn't true. Statements holds no weight here friend. So again, what are you basing your claims off of.?

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
post the scans and i see if there is context to it. Stomping fate and sups the way he did puts him ad trans. Also the fact he was on par with darkseid before the amp. After the amp he is darkseid on roids.

Stomping T-Shirt/Jeans Superman requires Trans-level?

He beat up Fate but he specifically sucker-punched him IIRC before he had a chance to use any magic or whatever. That hardly requires Trans-level power either (Dr. Strange has proven that wonderfully over the years), especially since Fate isn't exactly established power wise in that Universe, much less in regards to physical durability. Although I'll assume he's at least a High Herald because I'm generous.

Originally posted by Galan007
The method in which Darkseid used to destroy the planet wasn't shown. All we know is that he destroyed it in a fit of rage during his battle with Highfather:
http://i.imgur.com/4eYRlTs.jpg

Not that I agree with Juggy. However, E2 Superman beating a younger mainstream Superman isn't really the point. The point is that the issue(s) all but told us that E2 Superman is basically who mainstream Superman would grow into. Thus E2 Superman=adult mainstream Superman.

Exactly.

Understand that part but that doesn't auto give him wins over any Heralds until "he gain fts against legit players that have fts" and this will be hard for a character like him. Taking this route, King Hyperion would be a Skyfather which means Blue Marvel who defeated KH with a couple of well placed blows is a what...

Didn't the planet explode in a blast of Red Energy? IIRC he destroyed a planet in the same issue by blasting his Omega Beams into the core of the planet. Doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out what he used.

Originally posted by carver9
Exactly.

Understand that part but that doesn't auto give him wins over any Heralds until "he gain fts against legit players that have fts" and this will be hard for a character like him. Taking this route, King Hyperion would be a Skyfather which means Blue Marvel who defeated KH with a couple of well placed blows is a what...

That's kind of my problem with this. The double standard. I was adamantly against this logic applied to the Ultimate Universe and King Hyperion and so on. I'll do the same here.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...why would I need to post a scan of him failing to stop a ship? Shouldn't you know what I am talking about since you are claiming that beating this version of Superman makes him a trans. Why would I post the train scene when you should know what I am talking about? You are the one using this character as a totem pole. I bet Galan knows what scene I am talking about, since, well, he is actually reading the stories instead of guessing.

Gladiator has been stated as being the most powerful being in the universe and even though he is one of my faves, I even know that crap isn't true. Statements holds no weight here friend. So again, what are you basing your claims off of.?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Stomping T-Shirt/Jeans Superman requires Trans-level?

He beat up Fate but he specifically sucker-punched him IIRC before he had a chance to use any magic or whatever. That hardly requires Trans-level power either (Dr. Strange has proven that wonderfully over the years), especially since Fate isn't exactly established power wise in that Universe, much less in regards to physical durability. Although I'll assume he's at least a High Herald because I'm generous.

Forgot that it was a sucker shot.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...why would I need to post a scan of him failing to stop a ship? Shouldn't you know what I am talking about since you are claiming that beating this version of Superman makes him a trans. Why would I post the train scene when you should know what I am talking about? You are the one using this character as a totem pole. I bet Galan knows what scene I am talking about, since, well, he is actually reading the stories instead of guessing.

Gladiator has been stated as being the most powerful being in the universe and even though he is one of my faves, I even know that crap isn't true. Statements holds no weight here friend. So again, what are you basing your claims off of.?

You do realise that what you just wrote could be used to reply to any number of your own posts over the years?

Just saying...

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
i already pointed out but you go in circles. Even if young suprrman isnt that powerful he is still sups and stomping him like that is an overkill. Add to that the way he owned fate and you get the picture

😂 Thor bust a hole through Galactus head and you think taking out young Supes is impressive.

😂

Originally posted by -Pr-
You do realise that what you just wrote could be used to reply to any number of your own posts over the years?

Just saying...

About King Hyperion.?.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I completely forgot about that. I guess that's a good testament to his strength but I still don't understand to his strength how that justifies him beating Thor, much less stomping him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Also, didn't Darkseid kill E2 Superman in that same comic with some Parademons suicide-bombing or whatever? 😐 Yea....

This is what we were shown in JL #23.1:
http://imgur.com/vBCWoOS
http://imgur.com/R3TLOir

E2 Supes was effortlessly shredding through Parademons left and right. Then a few of them were inextricably able to hold onto Supes long enough for an Apokoliptian bomb to be strapped to him and go kablooey.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 Thor bust a hole through Galactus head and you think taking out young Supes is impressive.

😂

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
PIS. Love your double standard of twisting feats to your likehood. When ever it suits you present the lowest showings and the opposite.

😂 Thor defeated Bill, Surfer, and Drax teamed up against him.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 Thor defeated Bill, Surfer, and Drax teamed up against him.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
lol while having the power gem nice try troll. Without it he gets wrecked by tutinax surfer sentry atc atc

He beat them without the powergem.

How is that relevant Carver? Thor was ill and operating at higher level in that arc.

Originally posted by kgkg
How is that relevant Carver? Thor was ill and operating at higher level in that arc.

Doesn't take away from him acheieving this ft.

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh, I'm not saying Brutaal wins. I'm just saying that he's definitely got quantifiable/gaugeable feats... And very impressive ones at that.

This is what we were shown in Earth 2 #1:
http://imgur.com/TApSuVE
http://imgur.com/hfwR7zJ
http://imgur.com/B8gjhLE
http://imgur.com/bvRHEsM
http://imgur.com/Q44geUc
http://imgur.com/nBIlJDW
http://imgur.com/C4z0fZm
http://imgur.com/GWmRTlR

This is what we were shown in JL #23.1:
http://imgur.com/vBCWoOS
http://imgur.com/R3TLOir

E2 Supes was effortlessly shredding through Parademons left and right. Then a few of them were inextricably able to hold onto Supes long enough for an Apokoliptian bomb to be strapped to him and go kablooey.

Looks like they used a boomtube to get close to superman. Superman then got distracted by the Diana getting killed and the bomb went off.

Originally posted by carver9
He beat them without the powergem.

it was with powergem.

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh, I'm not saying Brutaal wins. I'm just saying that he's definitely got quantifiable/gaugeable feats... And very impressive ones at that.

This is what we were shown in Earth 2 #1:
http://imgur.com/TApSuVE
http://imgur.com/hfwR7zJ
http://imgur.com/B8gjhLE
http://imgur.com/bvRHEsM
http://imgur.com/Q44geUc
http://imgur.com/nBIlJDW
http://imgur.com/C4z0fZm
http://imgur.com/GWmRTlR

This is what we were shown in JL #23.1:
http://imgur.com/vBCWoOS
http://imgur.com/R3TLOir

E2 Supes was effortlessly shredding through Parademons left and right. Then a few of them were inextricably able to hold onto Supes long enough for an Apokoliptian bomb to be strapped to him and go kablooey.

Feats aside, that's some terrible writing imo.