Batman: Arkham Knight

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i think Harley is a weak Pre-Order Bargain

Still need to see the collector's edition, of which i'm sure there'll be one.

Originally posted by Kazenji
They're focusing on the single player and won't have time to do anything multiplayer related.

Never understood why they introduced multiplayer in the first place.

Creating an origional DC character. Impressive. First thought was 'anti-Bats spawned in the Asylum'.

The multiplayer on Origins was f*cking horrible. Focus on single player campaign, indeed.

I'm fine without it too, but the multiplayer was actually fun and fairly balanced in its own right (just needed better servers). If it didn't have some of the trophies/achievements that it did, I doubt it would've been criticized as much as it was.

The multiplayer for Origins is fairly good, Might have been shit when the game first came out but they've fixed it up

still get the occasional server problems but apart from that its playable.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
@Arachnid: As much as I hate to admit it...I agree with Steve. I would be Pi$$ed if that happened. If they killed the Batman, no matter how great the story surrounding it is, I would hate it. Killing Batman would ruin it for me after all the time and money I have invested into the series. Especially If they tried to carry it on with Dick taking over. I would be even madder. In the comics when they "killed" Bruce I was upset but when they made Dick the new Batman I was angry. Which I bring up because this franchise is a big ball of money and I feel like even if Batman dies they would try to continue.

Why were you against Dick becoming Nightwing in the comics?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Why were you against Dick becoming Nightwing in the comics?

Don't you mean becoming Batman? 😕

I honestly wish they didn't put a multiplayer mode in Origins and focused more on single player. It would have given them more time to sort out the glitches. And probably even given us a longer story. Each assassin should have had their own segment like Firefly did. Deadshot and Shiva shouldn't had been side missions and Deathstroke should have had a bigger role like the trailers made it seem.

Deadshot was a side mission in Arkham City too and didn't see anyone complain about that (even then, he was still better executed than in AC I felt, in addition to the improved design). Agree on Shiva however, but some of the hired assassins were bound to get more attention than others, though Slade still got some alright treatment with that said (in addition to being playable in challenge mode), as did Bane especially. Copperhead had her own segment too, but Black Mask ultimately got shafted more than any of the assassins. I'm not sure that much would've changed with the single player though (bugs aside) if they hadn't included the multiplayer.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Deadshot was a side mission in Arkham City too and didn't see anyone complain about that (even then, he was still better executed than in AC I felt, in addition to the improved design). Agree on Shiva however, but some of the hired assassins were bound to get more attention than others, though Slade still got some alright treatment with that said (in addition to being playable in challenge mode), as did Bane especially. Copperhead had her own segment too, but Black Mask ultimately got shafted more than any of the assassins. I'm not sure that much would've changed with the single player though (bugs aside) if they hadn't included the multiplayer.

Deadshot's role in Arkham City wasn't really the same. The main plot of Origins was "Black Mask" hiring 8 assassins to take out Batman. So Deadshot being one of the 8, should had been part of the main story and not a side mission.

And the issue regarding Slade is the trailers made it seem like he would be this awesome recurring villain that we have to get better and better to eventually take him down whilst trying to also combat Slade's uber-smart brain and fighting style. Nope. Only one boss fight(which is early in the game) and Batman absolutely curbstomps him and isn't even winded walking away from it. Like, he barely breaks a stride or has to take a breath after KO'ing him. That's not badass, that's just straight out illogical.

Deadshot in Origins was weak. The entire Assassin story angle wasn't a big as it could of been.

Also, I didn't finish the Deadshot mission in Origins. I despised how enemies would keep on reappearing. One of my pet peeves in gaming.

I'm currently playing Arkham City again. It's better than I remembered. It's also a much better game than Origins. It has more character, atmosphere, less annoyances and the area is a perfect size.

Originally posted by KCJ506
Deadshot's role in Arkham City wasn't really the same. The main plot of Origins was "Black Mask" hiring 8 assassins to take out Batman. So Deadshot being one of the 8, should had been part of the main story and not a side mission.

And the issue regarding Slade is the trailers made it seem like he would be this awesome recurring villain that we have to get better and better to eventually take him down whilst trying to also combat Slade's uber-smart brain and fighting style. Nope. Only one boss fight(which is early in the game) and Batman absolutely curbstomps him and isn't even winded walking away from it. Like, he barely breaks a stride or has to take a breath after KO'ing him. That's not badass, that's just straight out illogical.


Slade's boss encounter itself actually did most of what you described I felt, minus being a recurring villain in the game bit. I agree though that it was a bit too early in the game. As for Batman coming out unscathed after fighting Slade, I concur too that it's nonsensical especially as a Deathstroke fan, but it was kind of expected given a lot of the formidable adversaries/bosses in the Arkham series as a whole that Bats has just walked away from after beating without seeming to break a sweat. 😬 I liked how they at least gave the Suicide Squad cliffhanger for Mr. Wilson though, especially if that leads to another game with him (whether said game is Arkham Knight or not).

Originally posted by Smasandian
Deadshot in Origins was weak. The entire Assassin story angle wasn't a big as it could of been.

Also, I didn't finish the Deadshot mission in Origins. I despised how enemies would keep on reappearing. One of my pet peeves in gaming.

I'm currently playing Arkham City again. It's better than I remembered. It's also a much better game than Origins. It has more character, atmosphere, less annoyances and the area is a perfect size.


If Deadshot in Origins is weak, then that should speak volumes about his Arkham City self, whom you take out with just a simple grate takedown. lol And I blame the Joker for the whole assassins story not being as big as it could've been. Once the game story started focusing on him, the assassins thing just became an afterthought.

You won't be happy to know then that the Two-Face mission in Arkham City (as Catwoman) and Harley in City's story DLC also have reappearing enemies until you take out the main threat.

And yeah, City's better than Origins. It's not without its flaws too though.

Deadshot in Arkham City was a just a side mission. Nothing else.

In Origins, he was supposed to be part of the main story. I expect he would be a bigger deal than what happened.

I guess the issue with the reappearing enemies is that I took apart the room very quietly. I then attacked Deadshot and was beating him up. Two second after, I get shot in the back by bad guys I didn't know was in the room. I did this like three times when I realized they were reappearing through the door. It was dumb.

At least have a very small cutscene showing them entering instead of them shooting you in the back.

I noticed the reappearing enemies in that part too one time, Didn't really bother me as i didn't really need to deal with all the enemies just to get to Deadshot

also i'm pretty when he says "Hey! Come in! Anyone?" that's when more appear.

Well it was annoying to me and bad design in my opinion.

And I guess I didn't hear the warning. But then again, I was beating him up when they shot me in the back a few times.

Yeah, can understand it being frustrating the first few times if you're not aware. The reinforcements aren't that much a problem though if you just throw a smoke pellet around where you and Deadshot are, then do a beatdown on him again till the guys get closer or when the smoke starts clearing. Definitely forgivable compared to the Two-Face encounter in Arkham City where you had no such gadgets as Selina and guys kept reappearing without as much warning.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Don't you mean becoming Batman? 😕

Correct sir.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Why were you against Dick becoming Nightwing in the comics?
Dick was his own man when he became Nightwing. He had made a decent name for himself and while he still had a relation to Batman he was a Hero of his own making. When he became Batman it was like taking a million steps backwards. They can spin it as him "being the only one worthy" but they ripped away his identity. If they ever want to replace Bruce the only proper way is to have robin take up the mantel. The sidekick taking up what they were trained for kinda thing. I mean one could argue that Dick was once Robin but thats not the same because he moved on and became a hero of his own.