OMAC & Apollo vs Blue Marvel & Wonder Man

Originally posted by carver9
So you have proof that either of his opponents can survive anti matter? Also, OMAC lost to Frank, someone who is, yes, powerful, but isn't on Blue Marvels level. He was also taken out by heat vision. I feel safe at saying that anti matter would wreck him, unless again, you have proof.

Apollo. Uuuummmm, I had high hopes for this character but what has he done that would give him the edge against Wonderman or BM?

OMAC in the OTHER story had the upper hand on Frankenstein. Plus, he was heavily prepped, IIRC.

Originally posted by KingD19
He took King Hyperion down with mix of an AM energy blast and brute force.

OMAC has Brother Eye (standard) who can give him a power amp. Also, with energy power, healing, and tech protection at his command.

Originally posted by Golgo13
OMAC in the OTHER story had the upper hand on Frankenstein. Plus, he was heavily prepped, IIRC.

That was a straight up fight, and he lost. Blue Marvel is dropping top tiers and dropping beings that take out teams. Don't see why you're not giving him the edge against anyone here when he has the fts proving otherwise.

Originally posted by Golgo13
OMAC has Brother Eye (standard) who can give him a power amp. Also, with energy power, healing, and tech protection at his command.

He tried that with Superman at maximum power and got taken out with heat vision.

😬

King Hyperion singlehandedly killed every single being in his universe. Including Galactus. He also fought against 2 other Hyperions and was demolishing them. Marvel beat him like he owed him money was he stopped pitying himself.

Marvel also took down a portion of Shuma Gorath and amped Spectrum so she could take down another portion.

Originally posted by carver9
He tried that with Superman at maximum power and got taken out with heat vision.

😬

He didn't use BE there. Plus, he has taken a blast from Firestorm in JLI.

Originally posted by KingD19
King Hyperion singlehandedly killed every single being in his universe. Including Galactus. He also fought against 2 other Hyperions and was demolishing them. Marvel beat him like he owed him money was he stopped pitying himself.

Must be weak incarnations of the characters. 😛

Originally posted by KingD19
King Hyperion singlehandedly killed every single being in his universe. Including Galactus. He also fought against 2 other Hyperions and was demolishing them. Marvel beat him like he owed him money was he stopped pitying himself.

He also said that he killed all the Sentrys in each universe.

Originally posted by Golgo13
He didn't use BE there. Plus, he has taken a blast from Firestorm in JLI.

Yes he did.

What's Firestorm best energy ft? Also, where is that scan proving he can handle Antimatter?

Originally posted by carver9
Yes he did.

What's Firestorm best energy ft? Also, where is that scan proving he can handle Antimatter?

FS overloaded Captain Atom, IIRC.

And show that he used BE in the Superman incident.

NVM Carver. You're right that Brother EYe used certain amps, but not all of them. He didn't use the energy surge or anything.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Must be weak incarnations of the characters. 😛

Okay. I get it. Despite what I say, all you hear is "OMAC is awesome" right?

Originally posted by KingD19
Okay. I get it. Despite what I say, all you hear is "OMAC is awesome" right?

OMAC was pretty awesome series. But, what feats did those incarnations of characters have? Not all incarnations of Superman are powerful or GL or whatever.

From the few characters we saw, they're comparable in power if not the same. For example, the Colossus of that universe hit KH with a haymaker and sent him a good distance as well as busting his lip. Something I could see 616 replicating.

I also believe King Hyperion got amped somehow after or I the process of killing everyone.

Originally posted by KingD19
From the few characters we saw, they're comparable in power if not the same. For example, the Colossus of that universe hit KH with a haymaker and sent him a good distance as well as busting his lip. Something I could see 616 replicating.

Didn't BM fight Sentry to a standstill? Yet, KH killed all the other Sentry's and BM owned him?

He actually flash ko'd him first while he was still fighting the other Avengers. Then Sentry has to sneak attack him from orbit. They both passed out a bit after that. But that just shows how powerful Marvel is.

Originally posted by KingD19
He actually flash ko'd him first while he was still fighting the other Avengers. Then Sentry has to sneak attack him from orbit. They both passed out a bit after that. But that just shows how powerful Marvel is.

But for someone who owned King Hyperion, he should have owned Sentry.

Originally posted by Golgo13
But for someone who owned King Hyperion, he should have owned Sentry.

He was fighting Sentry PLUS the other Avengers.

Originally posted by carver9
He was fighting Sentry PLUS the other Avengers.

He should have owned them. Didn't you say KH killed Galactus and all the heroes on earth?

Despite fighting an entire Avengers lineup that included Wonder Man, Iron Man, Ares and She Hulk, he still punched Sentry into orbit while simultaneously ko'ing him and forced Sentry to go all out with a sneak attack despite help from the Avengers. Then he pushed Sentry to his absolute limit before they both passed out. The only other person to do that was WWH/Worldbreaker Hulk.